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Date:      Thu, 10 Oct 2013 13:37:15 +0530
From:      Shanker Balan <mail@shankerbalan.net>
To:        "freebsd-xen@freebsd.org" <freebsd-xen@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD Alpha5 amd64 - Citrix Xen 6.2 problem
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On 09-Oct-2013, at 8:06 PM, Mark Felder <feld@FreeBSD.org> wrote:

> On Wed, Oct 9, 2013, at 8:53, Roger Pau Monn=E9 wrote:
>> On 09/10/13 13:49, Mark Felder wrote:
>>> On Wed, Oct 9, 2013, at 2:46, Roger Pau Monn=E9 wrote:
>>>> On 09/10/13 08:18, Shanker Balan wrote:
>>>>> On 08-Oct-2013, at 9:19 PM, Mark Felder <feld@FreeBSD.org> wrote:
>>>>>=20
>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 8, 2013, at 9:45, Josias L.G wrote:
>>>>>>> Problem with Citrix Xen 6.2 and install from ISO. The "solution" =
was
>>>>>>> remove cd-rom drive from virtual machine. Not possible now with =
xen
>>>>>>> default in GENERIC kernel.
>>>>>>> Message error:=20
>>>>>>> run_interrupt_driven_hooks - still waiting after 300 seconds for
>>>>>>> xenbusb_nop_confighook_cb
>>>>>>> panic: run_interrupt_driven_config_hooks: waited too long
>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> I was going to test this soon... but you're right -- you probably =
can't
>>>>>> install FreeBSD 10 from ISO on Citrix XenServer because of this =
bug.
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> Can someone working on the xen bits test and maybe find a =
workaround?
>>>>>=20
>>>>> The "xenbusb_nop_confighook_cb" issue is the only issue which I am =
aware
>>>>> of that prevents CloudStack/XenServer IaaS private clouds from =
offering
>>>>> FreeBSD 10 as a supported OS template. The "vbd-destroy" =
workaround is not
>>>>> possible as the ISO is attached to the VM instance during the =
installation.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> A "please pretty please" request to @citrix R&D for the hopefully =
last fix
>>>>> to get FreeBSD 10 running on XenServer+CloudStack.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> The earlier HyperV related panic on XenServer has been fixed in =
ALPHA5.
>>>>=20
>>>> Hello,
>>>>=20
>>>> I've taken a look into this and I'm afraid there's no easy way to
>>>> workaround it from FreeBSD. When Xen is detected all IDE devices =
are
>>>> disconnected, and there's no fine grained way to only disable IDE =
disks
>>>> and not cdrom devices.
>>>>=20
>>>> Could you please contact your XenServer representative, and/or =
submit
>>>> this bug to xs-devel (xs-devel@lists.xenserver.org) mailing lists =
in
>>>> order to get this fixed on XenServer.
>>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> Citrix is aware of this as I've contacted several people there and =
this
>>> has been discussed both here and on the xs-devel list. There has to =
be
>>> something FreeBSD can do to work around this issue since Linux and
>>> NetBSD have no issues.
>>=20
>> Linux and NetBSD have no issues because you probably only tried them =
on
>> PV mode, which doesn't exhibit this issue (also NetBSD doesn't have
>> PVHVM support, so it's quite clear it won't have this issue).
>>=20
>>> As far as I'm aware the issue has been tracked
>>> down to badly behaving qemu in XenServer -- they don't use upstream =
qemu
>>> in XenServer (yet), and instead have their own fork. A future =
release is
>>> supposed to merge with upstream qemu.
>>=20
>> The main problem here is that XenServer announces a PV block device =
on
>> xenstore (the cdrom), but then it seems like there's no backend to
>> handle it, so it hangs on the connection phase. IMHO the problem is =
not
>> with the device model (Qemu), but with the backend that should handle
>> this PV device.
>>=20
>> Xen only allows you to either disable all IDE devices or none, so the
>> only possible solution I can think of is to not disable anything at =
all
>> and use the emulated devices, which will leave us with very poor
>> performance (unless I'm missing something, there's no way to only
>> disable disks but not cdroms).
>>=20
>>> But the fact remains that this is a non-issue on Linux and NetBSD =
who
>>> handle this buggy virtual CDROM without any problems. There has to =
be
>>> some way we can add a quirk on our side so this device doesn't stop =
the
>>> entire boot process. If FreeBSD 10 is released without =
out-of-the-box
>>> support on the premier commercial Xen platform we'll be shooting
>>> ourselves in the foot and all of this work will be for naught. =
Amazon
>>> isn't the only Xen platform people use.
>>=20
>> You can always use the pre-build VM images I guess (I have not tested
>> those, but I expect they should work fine under Xen).
>>=20
>> =
ftp://ftp.nl.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/VM-IMAGES/20131007/10.0-ALP=
HA5/amd64/
>>=20

This is way better. Having ready to import Xen images beats ISO =
installation
any day. Will try on my cloudstack setup later today.

Thanks.






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