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Date:      Mon, 14 Feb 2000 20:24:34 -0500
From:      "C. Stephen Gunn" <csg@dustdevil.waterspout.com>
To:        Garrett Wollman <wollman@freebsd.org>
Cc:        "C. Stephen Gunn" <csg@waterspout.com>, freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: 802.1Q VLANs
Message-ID:  <20000214202434.A16731@dustdevil.waterspout.com>
In-Reply-To: <200002141935.OAA66996@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu>
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On Mon, Feb 14, 2000 at 02:35:39PM -0500, Garrett Wollman wrote:

> Um, no.  The point of running the VLAN code is to usefully interpret
> frames with VLAN tags on them.  As the designer of the code in
> question, I think I can say that with some certainty.

I'm not trying to question the intent of the code in FreeBSD.  I was
commenting on the special case of tagged/non-tagged frames on the
same wire at the same time, and how that case is currently handled.

My observation is that a bridge forwards packets based on rules
(or VLAN tags) at layer-2.  I don't see a difference if this happens
on a physical wire, or inside the kernel drivers/protocol stacks.

I have several goals (related to VLANs and FreeBSD) and starting
an argument is definitely not one of them.  Its not my intent to
question your expertise, either as the code's architect, or in
general.

I'm working towards solid features in FreeBSD that I can use to
simplify my production network environment.

> > I believe it appropriate to make the lower protocol layers on FreeBSD
> > comply with the specification for a bridge.
> 
> I do not, unless bridging is actually configured.

I see an administrative advantage to having your configuration be
similar on all bridges or hosts that understand tagged frames.
That's the motivation for my comments.

Its entirely possible that I've missed something incredibly important
here.  Do you have some technical or philosopical reason to deviate
from the advise of the published standard?

 - Steve

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