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Date:      Wed, 6 Aug 2003 13:01:52 +0930
From:      Greg 'groggy' Lehey <grog@FreeBSD.org>
To:        "M. Warner Losh" <imp@bsdimp.com>
Cc:        cvs-src@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/sys/dev/firewire firewire.c firewire.h firewirereg.h fwdev.c
Message-ID:  <20030806033152.GD95375@wantadilla.lemis.com>
In-Reply-To: <20030805.201621.91001367.imp@bsdimp.com>
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On Tuesday,  5 August 2003 at 20:16:21 -0600, M. Warner Losh wrote:
> In message: <20030806020257.GL95375@wantadilla.lemis.com>
>             "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" <grog@FreeBSD.org> writes:
>> On Wednesday,  6 August 2003 at 10:59:39 +0900, Hidetoshi Shimokawa wrote:
>>> At Wed, 6 Aug 2003 11:11:41 +0930,
>>> Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Monday,  4 August 2003 at 20:11:39 -0700, Hidetoshi Shimokawa wrote:
>>>>> simokawa    2003/08/04 20:11:39 PDT
>>>>>   Log:
>>>>>   Change device name notation.
>>>>>   - /dev/fw{,mem}X.Y represents the Y'th unit on the X'th bus.
>>>>>   - /dev/fw{,mem}X is an alias of fw{,mem}X.0 for compatibility.
>>>>
>>>> Just out of interest, how compatible is this with NetBSD and OpenBSD?
>>>
>>> As far as I know, they use very different code base from ours.
>>
>> Yes, I've heard that too, at least in the case of NetBSD.  That in
>> itself isn't an issue.  It would be nice to have some compatibility in
>> the way it's used at user level.
>
> Looking at NetBSD's MAKEDEV from a few days ago shows that NetBSD
> doesn't expose firewire nodes as devices to userland.  So there's
> nothing to be compatible with.  Also, I'm not aware of many (any?)
> applications that talk directly to the firewire devices, except for
> the dumb console replacement that is the primary reason I know
> anything at all about firewire :-).

I've used Ethernet over firewire.  OK, that's not a device node, but
an interface address would be useful too.

> I'd check the man pages, but I can't seem to find any firewire man
> pages in NetBSD current either.

I think that firewire is still pretty minimal in NetBSD.  It would
just be nice not to introduce gratuitous differences.

Greg
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