Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2020 20:31:22 +0300 From: Mehmet Erol Sanliturk <m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com> To: Doug Denault <doug@safeport.com> Cc: Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de>, FreeBSD Questions Mailing List <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: diff is a little diff -- erent Message-ID: <CAOgwaMtWcNkXe1n%2BDG9Xmv8uWnHEs0VrTM2OpgwMBGULLxs--A@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <alpine.BSF.2.00.2008261223340.73252@bucksport.safeport.com> References: <alpine.BSF.2.00.2008260122071.73252@bucksport.safeport.com> <20200826094948.333c67b0.freebsd@edvax.de> <alpine.BSF.2.00.2008261131320.73252@bucksport.safeport.com> <CAOgwaMv4ofq6oPbmN9RznPquPn-v3sKzbxkgLaRht1RxdcEbpw@mail.gmail.com> <alpine.BSF.2.00.2008261223340.73252@bucksport.safeport.com>
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On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 7:35 PM Doug Denault <doug@safeport.com> wrote: > On Wed, 26 Aug 2020, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote: > > > On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 6:46 PM Doug Denault <doug@safeport.com> wrote: > > On Wed, 26 Aug 2020, Polytropon wrote: > > > > > On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 01:30:38 -0400 (EDT), Doug Denault wrote: > > >> I do wonder why. Who is going to go to the effort to > build/install > > "base" > > >> commands as various options are removed/changed? I can't wait > to see > > what > > >> happens to cp, grep, find, and awk. > > > > > > If I remember correctly, grep already is BSD grep (with GNU grep > > > being available via ports collection), and the same for awk (and > > > gawk respectively). In most cases, the base commands implement > > > the set of standard features, while the GNU commands have certain > > > GNU extensions added which the standard does not require or even > > > specify. This, and the licensing terms (BDSL / GPL) that apply. > > > > > Thanks, a perfectly reasonable response to my less than reasonable > post. > > Lost in my histrionics was my question. We have morphed from, "I > will not > > stop you from doing something stupid ..." to We are going to take > away > > some options that have been there for 25 years (that I know of) > because > > "?-----?". Having the blank filled in is what I was going for. > > > > After all these years I do not know which of the scores of > commands I use > > are GNU versus BCD. The man pages probably says but I have enough > trouble > > remembering all the options in ls, find, and awk that I use, much > less > > are they GNU or not. As written in /usr/src, the change seems > rather > > arbitrary. My 'real' question: is there a reason to make this > change? > > > License of GNU software is GPL which is NOT a commercially usable > license . > > > > For that reason , FreeBSD is clearing out the GNU software from its base > system by > > replacing them with BSD licensed similar software developed by FreeBSD > specialist > > volunteers without implementing unnecessary GNU extensions . > > An unnecessary option is anything you are not using. > > > To support FreeBSD user's operations using GNU software , such software > parts are moved > > into ports which do not affect the license of base system usage . > > Okay thanks for the explaination. Unless the lawyers tell you differently > I > doubt I have been breaking the law for the past 25 years. If so every > linux > in the world can be sued. There's a class action for you :) It was/is my > understanding this applies to including such software in an appliance, say > Xbox or whatever. I thought the licence difference dealt more with the BSD > license allowing proprietary software to be included in said appliance. > > > > _____ > Douglas Denault > http://www.safeport.com > doug@safeport.com > Voice: 301-217-9220 > Fax: 301-217-9277 > It is not illegal to use GPL licensed software in commercial applications . Consider one of the most important examples : Red Hat . The trouble is the following : A company is making investment to develop a software . Assume It is based on FreeBSD . If that company uses FreeBSD , by the effect of GPL parts , the company should also supply sources of its own proprietary software . This will destroy the competitive advantage of the company and waste the investment on the software which is not an acceptable situation . Trouble caused by GPL is about such cases . Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
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