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Date:      Wed, 8 Jan 1997 13:27:23 -0500
From:      "Steve Sims" <SimsS@IBM.Net>
To:        "Terry Lambert" <terry@lambert.org>
Cc:        <Hackers@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: Bounce Buffers and CCD
Message-ID:  <199701081828.SAA207537@smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net>

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> From: Terry Lambert <terry@lambert.org>
>> (Terry, I hope I haven't quoted you out of context, but I'm here to tell 
>> ya': BOUNCE-BUFFERS is a MANDATORY option for >16M systems, at least on
>> 3.0-CURRENT with my mo-bo having PCI, ISA and VESA!)
> 
> Then it's not required AND it's broken.  8-(.
> 
> Bounce conditions are supposed to be autodetected.

Would that it were true....

> What controller are you using? (PCI/VESA/ISA?)

Plain-vanilla ISA flavor Adaptec 1542-CF, Firmware 2.02 (IIRC), defaults all
around: 0x330, IRQ:11 DRQ:5

> How many address lines are propagated, if PCI/VESA? (24/32?)

Beats me.  How can I find out?  (Not that I'm sure it matters, being an
ISA-centric failure.

> It may be that your motherboard is broken... literally, the config
> BOUNCE_BUFFERS option is defined as turning on bouncing in conditions
> where it is not supposed to be required according to the hardware
> specifications for the busses involved.

It may be the motherboard loses.  It's pretty old; no-name P-5/90.  I've got
a Mach-32 card in a PCI slot, everything else is ISA; ports, SCSI.
If we need more granularity to determine why this board fails, I'll pop it
out and decipher the silk screening.  Say the word.

> If you are using an ISA bus mastering DMA controller, it's supposed
> to be handled.  If you are using nything else, it's supposed to be
> unnecessary; if you find it necessary for non-ISA hardware, your
> motherboard is not standards compliant and you should contact the
> manufacturer (and send mail with make/model/revision to the hardware
> list maintainers for a "don't anyone else buy one of these" note).

"Supposed" being the operative term here... ;-)


...sjs...



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