Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 09:30:53 +0600 (NOVT) From: "Maxim M. Kazachek" <stranger@sberbank.sibnet.ru> To: Richard Coleman <richardcoleman@mindspring.com> Cc: Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org> Subject: Re: Ports startup scripts in /etc/rc.d (Re: 5.2-BETA and related ports issues) Message-ID: <20031201092813.X355@sbk-gw.sibnet.ru> In-Reply-To: <3FCA652F.3080001@mindspring.com> References: <200311281553.hASFrURT003309@siralan.org> <86fzg8scn5.fsf@borg.borderworlds.dk> <20031129212652.GC8768@xor.obsecurity.org> <3FC955E3.3070608@FreeBSD.org> <3FCA10A4.2020409@mindspring.com> <3FCA652F.3080001@mindspring.com>
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On Sun, 30 Nov 2003, Richard Coleman wrote: >Andreas Klemm wrote: > >>>I guess I don't see the problem. What is wrong with ports adding >>>startup scripts to /etc/rc.d? For certain ports, that is the only way >>>to get the startup dependencies right (like making sure openldap or >>>postgresql starts before your mail system). This will become more >>>important as more of the base system moves to ports/packages. >>> >>>Just refine the note in UPDATING to specifically state which startup >>>scripts to remove, rather than "rm -rf /etc/rc.d/*". >> >> >> As I wrote im my previous mail we could import wrapper scripts >> for such basic services, since there are only few services >> that are so generic, that they have to be available so early >> in boot order. >> >> I strongly would dislike creating ports to install stuff under >> /etc/<whatever>. >> >> This would start to violate things for what I liked FreeBSD for >> all these many years and I hope/think other have the same feeling >> concerning this. >> >> Andreas /// >> > >But that kinda defeats the purpose of RCNG. One of the best features of >RCNG is that it makes it easier to add/delete applications from the >system. Not using it for this purpose reduces its utility. > >Let's not let the typical BSD traditionalism get in the way of using >RCNG for what it's designed. Don't get me wrong. I'm not advocating >Linux-style integration of packages/ports. But this seems fairly harmless. > >Richard Coleman >richardcoleman@mindspring.com > > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Perhaps we just need to place "wrapper" startup script, that will try to start "real" startup script in /usr/local/etc/rc.d if it exist? Most of ports are installed into /usr/local, so, lets don't use hierarchy above that. Sincerely, Maxim M. Kazachek mailto:stranger@sberbank.sibnet.ru mailto:stranger@fpm.ami.nstu.ru
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