Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2016 09:12:42 -0500 From: George Mitchell <george+freebsd@m5p.com> To: Jason Unovitch <junovitch@FreeBSD.org>, Julian Elischer <julian@freebsd.org> Cc: "ports@FreeBSD.org" <ports@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: what is the purpose of the quarterly ports branches? Message-ID: <3a97d014-1b8b-7e34-6704-1ee5fd8b97ca@m5p.com> In-Reply-To: <20161207025955.GA21488@Silverstone> References: <7c73fc75-b4d9-063d-02f9-628e06f8d4bd@freebsd.org> <CAOc73CDiZM9N9o6cQb6kU7x8bCvgsA_cL2Q28QjJpSdBzCBD_A@mail.gmail.com> <20161207025955.GA21488@Silverstone>
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On 12/06/16 21:59, Jason Unovitch wrote: > On Mon, Dec 05, 2016 at 10:48:20PM +0000, Ben Woods wrote: >> On Tue., 6 Dec. 2016 at 4:44 am, Julian Elischer <julian@freebsd.org> wrote: >> >>> they are effectively useless because the results are not archived, and >>> the quarterly pkg branch actually changes day by day, so making two >>> machines from the same quarterly branch can give you different >>> machines (making it useless for paying work) >>> >>> not to mention that if you use the quarterly pkg branch you run he >>> risk of it completely changing if you happen to be unlucky enough to >>> be doing it across a quarterly boundary. then you end up with a >>> completely messed up system. (from experience). >>> > > If you are handling the burden of support for a customer then perhaps > Poudriere and building internally is the best option. Then if you want > to stay on an older quarterly because none of what you deploy to > customers is impacted by security issues you can roll them at your own > pace. > >>> But the big question still remains.. >>> >>> What do you think you are solving and why are they changing? shouldn't >>> a snapshot be stable? > > > Think releng compared to stable in the src repo rather than > release/stable. They change in the same fashion to get SA (in the form > of VuXML) and errata worthy fixes. > [...] If only! At least the current base releng does not arbitrarily disappear every three months. -- George
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