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Date:      Wed, 23 Aug 2000 16:05:18 +0200
From:      Siegbert Baude <siegbert.baude@gmx.de>
To:        "freebsd-stable@freebsd.org" <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Error during make INSTALLworld
Message-ID:  <39A3DA1E.C267C603@gmx.de>

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Hello,

Iīm tracking 4.x STABLE normally without any problems, but faced some problems
tonight and want to know:

First question: Do I have a stable system now? Should I repeat the cvsup and
make world?
Second question: Why did the first make installworld fail? Kernel and buildworld
were o.k. then!
Third question: This was the first time I rebooted to single user mode instead
of just "shutdown now". Is there any possibility that a new kernel with old
userland can cause problems during "make installworld"? 
Fourth question: Are there any tools to check RAM integrity?
Fifth question: In case this happens again, which information is important to
gather, to be really able to hunt down the error? A FAQ or any RTFM?

What happened tonight:
- CVSupped
- make buildworld without problems
- make buildkernel KERNEL=LILITH and machine locked completely (no mouse or
keys, only hard reset, no entry in logs, no core)
- in the BIOS I checked processor temperature: within normal range (49°C, (about
115 Fahrenheit ???)) 3,3V level measured as 3,49V everything else within 1%
tolerance, fans are working
- rebooted to single user mode, to prevent any amoking daemons
- make buildkernel KERNEL=LILITH again, this time no problem
- make installkernel
- reboot to single user mode
- make installworld -> system lock with PAGE FAULT 12 (how can you stop the
reboot countdown there or copy the message output? "Any key will reboot" was
stated there, should I have tried ScrollLock nevertheless?)

I remembered hints on this list, that PAGE FAULT 12 often points to faulty RAM,
so checked RAM settings in the BIOS:
I found that I had tweaked the CAS-Latency from 3 to 2 (Celeron FSB only 66MHz,
with 100MHZ RAM, thought this should be safe; I changed this about half a year
ago and with none of my systems on this machine faced ever any problems. But I
added last week a SCSI-adapter with HD, CD and CD-RW. Can this influence the
RAM-timing? Or maybe a slightly higher temperature in the case is just over the
frontier of the RAM then?)

- went back to standard RAM timing as suggested by SPD
- booted to single user mode
- make installworld again -> error some file not found ???

It was after 2 a.m. then, I decided to go to bed, to not produce any errors
because of being too tired. Thought I could easily reproduce this error today,
so I didnīt write down the exact error position.

Today:
- boot to single user mode
- make installworld to reproduce the error position
Surprise: install without glimpse !

- left single user mode, checked logs: no errors, write down this mail


Used hardware: ASUS P2B, Celeron 400, 128M DIMM 100Mhz, Elsa Erazor II, NIC with
Realtek 8139

bash-2.04$ uname -a
FreeBSD lilith.wohnheim.uni-ulm.de 4.1-STABLE FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE #0: Wed Aug 23
01:55:53 CEST 2000    
coocoo@lilith.wohnheim.uni-ulm.de:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/LILITH  i386

Any comments really appreciated

Thanks in advance
Siegbert


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