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Date:      Sun, 13 Jun 1999 23:33:45 -0500 (CDT)
From:      Jim Bryant <jbryant@argus.tfs.net>
To:        tomdean@ix.netcom.com (Thomas Dean)
Cc:        freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Very Strange Local Network Behavior
Message-ID:  <199906140433.XAA53459@argus.tfs.net>
In-Reply-To: <199906140307.UAA31932@ix.netcom.com> from Thomas Dean at "Jun 13, 99 08:07:48 pm"

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No problems here.

I'm running from a kernel built from last night, and an installworld
from yesterday morning.  argus uses a 3c509, and wahoo uses a generic
pci ethernet card.  50 foot coax, with termination, and a terminal
server and x-terminal in between.  This is an SMP kernel.

Maybe you have a flakey radio shack coax [NEVER BUY COAX FROM RADIO
SHACK!] or a flakey ethernet controller.  First, I suggest going to a
radio store [commercian or amatuer] and buy a good coax [or have one
made], the connectors, the crimps, and the shielding will all be
better.

Also, watch the length of the coax.  I don't at the moment recall the
lengths to stay away from, but there are certain lengths that cause a
high swr condition that will produce serious errors and possibly
damage the tranceiver on the card.

 8:20:21pm  wahoo(3): ping argus
PING argus (10.11.12.1): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 10.11.12.1: icmp_seq=0 ttl=255 time=1.254 ms
64 bytes from 10.11.12.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=255 time=1.168 ms
64 bytes from 10.11.12.1: icmp_seq=2 ttl=255 time=0.939 ms
64 bytes from 10.11.12.1: icmp_seq=3 ttl=255 time=0.942 ms
64 bytes from 10.11.12.1: icmp_seq=4 ttl=255 time=1.436 ms
64 bytes from 10.11.12.1: icmp_seq=5 ttl=255 time=0.939 ms
64 bytes from 10.11.12.1: icmp_seq=6 ttl=255 time=1.164 ms
64 bytes from 10.11.12.1: icmp_seq=7 ttl=255 time=1.539 ms
64 bytes from 10.11.12.1: icmp_seq=8 ttl=255 time=1.173 ms
64 bytes from 10.11.12.1: icmp_seq=9 ttl=255 time=1.314 ms
64 bytes from 10.11.12.1: icmp_seq=10 ttl=255 time=1.359 ms
64 bytes from 10.11.12.1: icmp_seq=11 ttl=255 time=1.547 ms
64 bytes from 10.11.12.1: icmp_seq=12 ttl=255 time=1.224 ms
64 bytes from 10.11.12.1: icmp_seq=13 ttl=255 time=1.186 ms
64 bytes from 10.11.12.1: icmp_seq=14 ttl=255 time=1.235 ms
64 bytes from 10.11.12.1: icmp_seq=15 ttl=255 time=1.545 ms
64 bytes from 10.11.12.1: icmp_seq=16 ttl=255 time=0.989 ms
64 bytes from 10.11.12.1: icmp_seq=17 ttl=255 time=1.644 ms
64 bytes from 10.11.12.1: icmp_seq=18 ttl=255 time=1.248 ms
64 bytes from 10.11.12.1: icmp_seq=19 ttl=255 time=1.621 ms
64 bytes from 10.11.12.1: icmp_seq=20 ttl=255 time=1.327 ms
64 bytes from 10.11.12.1: icmp_seq=21 ttl=255 time=1.176 ms
64 bytes from 10.11.12.1: icmp_seq=22 ttl=255 time=1.258 ms
64 bytes from 10.11.12.1: icmp_seq=23 ttl=255 time=1.259 ms
64 bytes from 10.11.12.1: icmp_seq=24 ttl=255 time=1.216 ms
64 bytes from 10.11.12.1: icmp_seq=25 ttl=255 time=1.207 ms
64 bytes from 10.11.12.1: icmp_seq=26 ttl=255 time=1.179 ms
64 bytes from 10.11.12.1: icmp_seq=27 ttl=255 time=1.049 ms
64 bytes from 10.11.12.1: icmp_seq=28 ttl=255 time=0.952 ms
64 bytes from 10.11.12.1: icmp_seq=29 ttl=255 time=1.390 ms
^C
--- argus ping statistics ---
30 packets transmitted, 30 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 0.939/1.249/1.644/0.196 ms

In reply:
> I am running 4.0-current SMP as of yesterday.
> 
> Since the make world and rebuilding the kernel, the local network is
> very strange.
> 
> I changed the local network to be two machines, connected with a 10
> foot coax, properly terminated.  Ping starts off OK, a little slow.  I
> seem to recall it being ~1ms for this setup.  Then, it changes to take
> > 1 second.  Pinging my ISP via ppp takes ~190ms, about normal.
> 
> I have attached the output of ping and dmesg.
> 
> tomdean
> 
> ==============================
> #  ping tddti
> PING tddti.tddhome (192.168.1.2): 56 data bytes
> 64 bytes from 192.168.1.2: icmp_seq=0 ttl=32 time=4.810 ms
> 64 bytes from 192.168.1.2: icmp_seq=1 ttl=32 time=7.483 ms
> 64 bytes from 192.168.1.2: icmp_seq=2 ttl=32 time=6.774 ms
> 64 bytes from 192.168.1.2: icmp_seq=3 ttl=32 time=18.802 ms
> 64 bytes from 192.168.1.2: icmp_seq=4 ttl=32 time=5.451 ms
> 64 bytes from 192.168.1.2: icmp_seq=5 ttl=32 time=3.111 ms
> 64 bytes from 192.168.1.2: icmp_seq=6 ttl=32 time=87.740 ms
> 64 bytes from 192.168.1.2: icmp_seq=7 ttl=32 time=4.245 ms
> 64 bytes from 192.168.1.2: icmp_seq=8 ttl=32 time=4.702 ms
> 64 bytes from 192.168.1.2: icmp_seq=9 ttl=32 time=3.673 ms
> 64 bytes from 192.168.1.2: icmp_seq=10 ttl=32 time=8.894 ms
> 64 bytes from 192.168.1.2: icmp_seq=11 ttl=32 time=6.028 ms
> 64 bytes from 192.168.1.2: icmp_seq=12 ttl=32 time=4.990 ms
> 64 bytes from 192.168.1.2: icmp_seq=13 ttl=32 time=3.107 ms
> 64 bytes from 192.168.1.2: icmp_seq=14 ttl=32 time=27.055 ms
> 64 bytes from 192.168.1.2: icmp_seq=15 ttl=32 time=4.181 ms
> 64 bytes from 192.168.1.2: icmp_seq=16 ttl=32 time=4.713 ms
> 64 bytes from 192.168.1.2: icmp_seq=17 ttl=32 time=3.650 ms
> 64 bytes from 192.168.1.2: icmp_seq=18 ttl=32 time=5.951 ms
> 64 bytes from 192.168.1.2: icmp_seq=19 ttl=32 time=141.150 ms
> 64 bytes from 192.168.1.2: icmp_seq=20 ttl=32 time=1011.133 ms
> 64 bytes from 192.168.1.2: icmp_seq=21 ttl=32 time=1011.119 ms
> 64 bytes from 192.168.1.2: icmp_seq=22 ttl=32 time=1011.110 ms
> 64 bytes from 192.168.1.2: icmp_seq=23 ttl=32 time=1011.130 ms
> 64 bytes from 192.168.1.2: icmp_seq=24 ttl=32 time=1011.091 ms
> 64 bytes from 192.168.1.2: icmp_seq=25 ttl=32 time=1011.127 ms
> 64 bytes from 192.168.1.2: icmp_seq=26 ttl=32 time=1011.106 ms
> 64 bytes from 192.168.1.2: icmp_seq=27 ttl=32 time=1011.161 ms
> 64 bytes from 192.168.1.2: icmp_seq=28 ttl=32 time=1011.091 ms
> 64 bytes from 192.168.1.2: icmp_seq=29 ttl=32 time=1011.164 ms
> 64 bytes from 192.168.1.2: icmp_seq=30 ttl=32 time=1011.131 ms
> ^C
> --- tddti.tddhome ping statistics ---
> 32 packets transmitted, 31 packets received, 3% packet loss
> round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 3.107/370.286/1011.164/476.031 ms
> 
> === dmesg ======================
> # dmesg
> Copyright (c) 1992-1999 The FreeBSD Project.
> Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993
>         The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
> FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT #0: Sat Jun 12 14:22:28 PDT 1999
>     tomdean@celebris:/usr/src/sys/compile/CELEBRIS-SMP
> Timecounter "i8254"  frequency 1193182 Hz
> CPU: Pentium/P54C (586-class CPU)
>   Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0x525  Stepping=5
>   Features=0x3bf<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,MCE,CX8,APIC>
> real memory  = 100663296 (98304K bytes)
> avail memory = 94887936 (92664K bytes)
> Programming 16 pins in IOAPIC #0
> FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor motherboard
>  cpu0 (BSP): apic id:  0, version: 0x00030010, at 0xfee00000
>  cpu1 (AP):  apic id:  1, version: 0x00030010, at 0xfee00000
>  io0 (APIC): apic id:  2, version: 0x000f0011, at 0xfec00000
> Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc02c7000.
> Intel Pentium detected, installing workaround for F00F bug
> npx0: <math processor> on motherboard
> npx0: INT 16 interface
> pcib0: <PCI host bus adapter> on motherboard
> pci0: <PCI bus> on pcib0
> chip0: <Intel 82434NX (Neptune) PCI cache memory controller> at device 0.0 on pci0
> ncr0: <ncr 53c810 fast10 scsi> irq 11 at device 1.0 on pci0
> isab0: <Intel 82378IB PCI to ISA bridge> at device 2.0 on pci0
> vga-pci0: <Matrox MGA 2064W graphics accelerator> irq 9 at device 6.0 on pci0
> de0: <Digital 21041 Ethernet> irq 10 at device 8.0 on pci0
> de0: DEC DE450-CA 21041 [10Mb/s] pass 1.1
> de0: address 00:00:f8:02:76:db
> isa0: <ISA bus> on motherboard
> fdc0: <NEC 72065B or clone> at port 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0
> fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold
> fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> at fdc0 drive 0
> atkbdc0: <keyboard controller (i8042)> at port 0x60-0x6f on isa0
> atkbd0: <AT Keyboard> irq 1 on atkbdc0
> psm0: <PS/2 Mouse> irq 12 on atkbdc0
> psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0
> vga0: <Generic ISA VGA> on isa0
> sc0: <System console> on isa0
> sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0>
> sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0
> sio0: type 16550A
> sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0
> sio1: type 16550A
> ppc0 at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0
> ppc0: PC87334 chipset (PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode
> lpt0: <generic printer> on ppbus 0
> lpt0: Interrupt-driven port
> APIC_IO: Testing 8254 interrupt delivery
> APIC_IO: routing 8254 via pin 2
> Waiting 10 seconds for SCSI devices to settle
> SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched!
> da0 at ncr0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
> da0: <QUANTUM FIREBALL1080S 1Q09> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device 
> da0: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 8)
> da0: 1042MB (2134305 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 132C)
> cd0 at ncr0 bus 0 target 5 lun 0
> cd0: <TOSHIBA CD-ROM XM-5401TA 3605> Removable CD-ROM SCSI-2 device 
> cd0: 4.237MB/s transfers (4.237MHz, offset 8)
> cd0: cd present [59444 x 2048 byte records]
> da2 at ncr0 bus 0 target 2 lun 0
> da2: <QUANTUM EMPIRE_1080S 1240> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device 
> da2: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 8), Tagged Queueing Enabled
> da2: 1029MB (2109376 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 131C)
> da1 at ncr0 bus 0 target 1 lun 0
> da1: <QUANTUM FIREBALL ST3.2S 0F0C> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device 
> da1: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 8), Tagged Queueing Enabled
> da1: 3090MB (6328861 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 393C)
> changing root device to da1s1a
> 
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