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Date:      Tue, 28 Mar 2006 16:13:23 +0200
From:      Pieter de Goeje <pieter@degoeje.nl>
To:        pyunyh@gmail.com
Cc:        freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: new sk driver [was: nve timeout (and down) regression?]
Message-ID:  <200603281613.24065.pieter@degoeje.nl>
In-Reply-To: <20060328020840.GA8189@cdnetworks.co.kr>
References:  <20060324223317.2069564f@it.buh.tecnik93.com> <200603280221.28996.pieter@degoeje.nl> <20060328020840.GA8189@cdnetworks.co.kr>

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On Tuesday 28 March 2006 04:08, Pyun YongHyeon wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 28, 2006 at 02:21:28AM +0200, Pieter de Goeje wrote:
>  > On Monday 27 March 2006 23:48, JoaoBR wrote:
>  > > On Monday 27 March 2006 15:51, Mark Linimon wrote:
>  > > > On Mon, Mar 27, 2006 at 12:15:55PM -0300, JoaoBR wrote:
>  > > > > well, the actual driver is trash and unusable and overall crashes
>  > > > > SMP systems ... so more testing to see if it crashes more?  ;)
>  > > >
>  > > > As with any other software development project, you have to draw a
>  > > > line somewhere and say "these things will be in the release and
>  > > > these things will not be in the release"; otherwise, you will never
>  > > > have a release at all.
>  > > >
>  > > > I am not familiar with the code in this case but if its inclusion
>  > > > changed enough other things in the system where _everything_ had to
>  > > > be re-tested then it's not worth the regression.
>  > > >
>  > > > These are just the simple facts of (any) software development.
>  > >
>  > > well, ok that is completly understandable basicly
>  > >
>  > > but this driver is unusable since dec/jan for me, for others probably
>  > > longer
>  > >
>  > > IMO it would make sense to be replaced by Pyuns driver because the
>  > > original is not functional
>  > >
>  > > kind of strange getting a new release with a known not functional
>  > > driver
>  > >
>  > > Jo?o
>  >
>  > This is not quite true; I am running 2 systems with the sk driver. One
>  > of them is a dual core athlon64, and it's network connection is indeed
>  > flawed unless I change debug.mpsafenet to 0. The other machine is a
>  > regular athlon64 and has no problems at all. Both systems are running
>  > 6.1-PRERELEASE amd64.
>
> Does it happen on my latest sk(4) driver?

I'll give it a try.

>
> I don't have amd64 systems but the driver was tested on i386(SMP)
> and sparc64(SMP) and I never see above errors.
> The only issue known to me is occasional watchdog timeout error
> which I really want to fix. But the watchdog timeout error is hard
> to reproduce and I couldn't reproduce the error on my system.
>
>  > With debug.mpsafenet=1, cvsup failes with "protocol error"s on the SMP
>  > box. Also, I run several Half-Life: Counter-Strike servers on it and
>  > clients occasionaly receive corrupted UDP packets which cause them to
>  > drop the connection. However as soon as I changed debug.mpsafenet to 0,
>  > all problems were gone.
>
> How about stock sk(4)? Does it have the same issue too?

I am using stock sk(4) now. I'm not seeing any watchdog timeout errors.

>
>  > So, maybe you should try changing debug.mpsafenet.
>  > FYI: the SMP box has an Asus A8V (agp) mobo, and the other box an Asus
>  > K8V SE.

I did try an old realtek (rl(4)) card, it had the same problems and I could 
fix the problems with that card too by turning off mpsafenet.



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