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Date:      Fri, 28 Dec 2001 06:21:04 -0800
From:      Keith Simonsen <bangel@elite.net>
To:        Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>
Cc:        freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Does FreeBSD have a problem with some AMD processors?
Message-ID:  <20011228062104.A96518@peach.elite.net>
In-Reply-To: <20011228181009.F95692@monorchid.lemis.com>; from grog@lemis.com on Fri, Dec 28, 2001 at 06:10:09PM %2B1030
References:  <20011228181009.F95692@monorchid.lemis.com>

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Greg,

Do not forget to check your power supply make/model. If you search on google
for AMD's recommended hardware list, double check you're power supply is 
listed for your cpu. 

I had the unfortunate experience of having a power supply explode and catch
on fire, because I read the model number wrong and thought it was OK for a 
new 1.4GHz Athlon. The symptoms: system unstable/freezing under no load.
Under load, the power supply exploded. hehe

-Keith


On 28-Dec-2001, Greg Lehey wrote:
> I've been using AMD processors almost exclusively in my main work
> machines for over 4 years, and I've been very happy with them.  I'm
> currently running a K6/233, a K6/333, an Athlon 750, a Duron 850 and
> an Athlon XP 1700.  Last August, though, I bought a machine which gave
> me a lot of trouble, the Duron 850 mentioned above.  I found that it
> would freeze for no apparent reason.  I established that it wasn't the
> memory by taking the memory of another machine and running it like
> that; it made no difference.  I ended up also changing the motherboard
> and the processor, but the hangs continued.   I could expect a hang
> within 8 hours when doing 'make release'
> 
> Just for the fun of it, I tried running Linux on it.  I've been
> running a kernel build and 'make clean' on it now for 36 hours, and
> it's still running fine.  Yesterday some Linux friends of mine came
> around and looked at it and told me that the Linux kernel I was
> running on the machine (2.4.16) had had a number of AMD-specific fixes
> put in.  He didn't go into more detail, unfortunately, but I'll ask
> him again when I have time: it could be something relating to chipset
> bugs we have seen and fixed.  It would help to know, though, if other
> people are experiencing similar problems.  Please let me know if
> you're having problems with AMD processors which seem to be specific
> to FreeBSD, especially if they're hangs (i.e. the machine stops
> reacting, but the display still shows the last state, it doesn't
> reboot or panic).
> 
> Information that could be interesting is (here my values):
> 
> Processor:    AMD Duron 850
> Motherboard:  ECS K7VZA
> Memory:	      1 128 MB SIMM, 100 MHz.
> 
> Greg
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