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Date:      Fri, 06 Feb 2015 08:33:23 -0800
From:      Joe Ennis <je33@boinkboink.org>
To:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: buildworld in 45 min!
Message-ID:  <54D4ECD3.8060203@boinkboink.org>
In-Reply-To: <26731.128.135.70.2.1423176514.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu>
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On 2/5/2015 2:48 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
> 
> On Thu, February 5, 2015 4:39 pm, Bob Willcox wrote:
>> On Thu, Feb 05, 2015 at 04:32:39PM -0600, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>>>
>>> On Thu, February 5, 2015 3:51 pm, Bob Willcox wrote:
>>>> On Thu, Jan 08, 2015 at 03:01:41AM -0800, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
>>>>> I got a Sun Fire X4100 for 60 pounds off ebay:
>>>>>
>>>>> FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE #0 r274401: Tue Nov 11 21:02:49 UTC 2014
>>>>> CPU: Dual-Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 2220 (2792.64-MHz K8-class
>>> CPU)
>>>>> real memory  = 17179869184 (16384 MB)
>>>>> avail memory = 16595623936 (15826 MB)
>>>>> FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 4 CPUs
>>>>> FreeBSD/SMP: 2 package(s) x 2 core(s)
>>>>>
>>>>> It does buildworld -j8 in under 45 min.
>>>>> That's really fast!
>>>>> I'm used to 4 hour ia64 builds.
>>>>> Time to move on perhaps...
>>>>>
>>>>> Anton
>>>>
>>>> Not trying to show anyone up (really), but you can just imagine how
>>>> shocked I
>>>> was when I first ran a buildworld on my current workstation system in
>>> 11
>>>> minutes!
>>>>
>>>> FreeBSD 10.1-STABLE #3 r277033: Sun Jan 11 17:07:24 CST 2015
>>>> CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-5820K CPU @ 3.30GHz (3300.07-MHz K8-class
>>> CPU)
>>>> real memory  = 34359738368 (32768 MB)
>>>> avail memory = 33184337920 (31647 MB)
>>>> FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 12 CPUs
>>>> FreeBSD/SMP: 1 package(s) x 6 core(s) x 2 SMT threads
>>>>
>>>> The latest run was 11:43 (looks like I'm losing a little ground). This
>>> is
>>>> with -j12.
>>>
>>> I couple of times had notices incomplete build with -j16 (or whatever
>>> those boxes allowed), ever since run buildworld as a single thread...
>>> Maybe just me ;-)
>>>
>>> Valeri
>>
>> Hmm, I have had quite some success with parallel builds myself. However, I
>> never bother to go beyond the number of logical CPUs in the system.
> 
> So do I. "16" was a figure of speech. I usually would use number of CPUs
> less by 2 than number of physical CPUs on the box (leaving a couple of
> CPUs for the rest that runs on the box). Otherwise you loose on process
> switching overhead between processes sharing the same CPU. Not only 0 gain
> in speed, but loss on process switching overhead.
> 
> As far as incomplete builds are concerned, I indeed have seen them
> occasionally, so, lazy person's solution was: single thread build ever
> since ;-) Again, probably just me. And probably at particular point in
> time with particular compiler...
> 
> Valeri
> 
>> When I
>> did
>> try that in the past it didn't seem to really speed things up all that
>> much
>> (if any).
>>
>> Bob
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I can remember building 386bsd back in the early '90s on a 386 system
>>> and
>>>> it taking
>>>> just under 24 hours!  :)
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> Valeri Galtsev
>>> Sr System Administrator
>>> Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics
>>> Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics
>>> University of Chicago
>>> Phone: 773-702-4247
>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>
>> --
>> Bob Willcox    | You climb to reach the summit, but once
>> bob@immure.com | there, discover that all roads lead down.
>> Austin, TX     |       -- Stanislaw Lem, "The Cyberiad"
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> 
> 
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Valeri Galtsev
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> Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics
> University of Chicago
> Phone: 773-702-4247
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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Just for grins on my 10.1-RELEASE machine I fired off:

# /usr/bin/time -h make -j9 buildworld

Yeowsah, couldn't believe my eyes when I came back from breakfast and
saw 13min 5sec! Had to do it again and sure 'nuff.

br,

--
joe



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