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Date:      Mon, 19 Oct 2009 17:16:43 -0400
From:      Allen <GedankeZauberer@comcast.net>
To:        freebsd-chat@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Quickie question
Message-ID:  <200910191716.43652.GedankeZauberer@comcast.net>
In-Reply-To: <200910191344.n9JDimaX048824@lurza.secnetix.de>
References:  <200910191344.n9JDimaX048824@lurza.secnetix.de>

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On Monday 19 October 2009 09:44:48 am Oliver Fromme wrote:
> Allen <GedankeZauberer@comcast.net> wrote:
>  > On Saturday 17 October 2009 02:52:56 am Tony Theodore wrote:
>  > > OK, so if you have a look at the contents of
>  > > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/, it seems 7.1 packages
>  > > are no longer being built. Not sure there's much you can do apart from
>  > > using ports or upgrading.
>  >
>  > Thanks for letting me know about that. I didn't know. I heard the other
>  > day on here that 7.1 had a longer life cycle than 7.2 so I hadn't
>  > upgraded as I planned on waiting for 8.0, but I guess it's time to just
>  > go ahead and upgrade.
>
> AFAIK this has nothing to do with the life cycle of 7.1.
> The older packages (and 7.1 is regarded as older) have been
> moved from the main FTP site to ftp-archive.freebsd.org.
>
> You can still use the pkg_add tool with 7.1, you just have
> to set the PACKAGESITE environment variable to the place
> where the packages are located.  This has to be the full
> URL including the path where the files are to be found.
> See the pkg_add(1) manual page for detals, or ask Google.

I've been doing some reading on this lately because I wanted to know what the 
best option would be, and since I do have a test machine set up almost the 
same as the one in question, I think my best bet is just to upgrade to a new 
version. I have... mm basically every book you can buy from FreeBSDMall, but 
I've noticed the upgrade process is different in some of them, so I think I'm 
going to just read the online one in the FreeBSD Docs as it should be the 
more updated version, and just try out a new one.

> However, note that the releaase packages are never updated.
> If you want to update packages beyond the versions as of
> the release, you need to follow the 7-stable packages.
> (Or use the ports collection via portsnap, csup or similar,
> but it seems you don't want to do that.)
>
> Of course, updating to a newer version of FreeBSD is not
> an entirely bad idea either.  ;-)

Yea, I think this is my best bet since from what I've been reading so far, 
they're talking about the 6.x branch AND 7.x branch being outdated soon, and 
8.0 is going to be the only one that's... I can't recall the exact wording, 
but being a guy I just took a mental note saying "OK, when 8.0 comes out, 
upgrade, or do a fresh install, because the others aren't going to be worked 
on as much".

I've been reading up on this a lot because, coming from a mostly Linux 
background, the way STABLE and RELEASE are used is a little bit different. I 
don't use RedHat or anything like that because I just don't like it, but 
Slackware, SUSE, and Debian I do use, (SUSE has been a favorite OS of mine 
for a long time. And having a friendship with their head security guy is nice 
too) so I was like hmm, STABLE seems like the one I should use for my test 
server, but BSD in general is stable as any OS you find anyway, so I usually 
used RELEASE not realizing that it was not the best idea because it would 
save me a lot of time if I was to just use Stable.



> Best regards
>    Oliver

Sehr danke !

-Allen
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