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Date:      Mon, 22 Jan 2018 12:41:41 -0600
From:      Kyle Evans <kevans@freebsd.org>
To:        Konstantin Belousov <kostikbel@gmail.com>
Cc:        svn-src-head@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org,  src-committers <src-committers@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r328240 - in head: etc/mtree lib lib/libc/regex lib/libc/tests/regex lib/libregex lib/libregex/tests share/mk
Message-ID:  <CACNAnaHBYGiN8NTLbK3%2BjWHEV0YwST066S3kHMHsE-Jiuc8Bdw@mail.gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <20180122180523.GH55707@kib.kiev.ua>
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On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 12:05 PM, Konstantin Belousov
<kostikbel@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 11:43:34AM -0600, Kyle Evans wrote:
>> On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 9:53 AM, Konstantin Belousov
>> <kostikbel@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 08:05:30AM -0600, Kyle Evans wrote:
>> >> On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 4:26 AM, Konstantin Belousov
>> >> <kostikbel@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 02:44:41AM +0000, Kyle Evans wrote:
>> >> >> Author: kevans
>> >> >> Date: Mon Jan 22 02:44:41 2018
>> >> >> New Revision: 328240
>> >> >> URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/328240
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Log:
>> >> >>   Add libregex, connect it to the build
>> >> >>
>> >> >>   libregex is a regex(3) implementation intended to feature GNU extensions and
>> >> >>   any other non-POSIX compliant extensions that are deemed worthy.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>   These extensions are separated out into a separate library for the sake of
>> >> >>   not cluttering up libc further with them as well as not deteriorating the
>> >> >>   speed (or lack thereof) of the libc implementation.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>   libregex is implemented as a build of the libc implementation with LIBREGEX
>> >> >>   defined to distinguish this from a libc build. The reasons for
>> >> >>   implementation like this are two-fold:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>   1.) Maintenance- This reduces the overhead induced by adding yet another
>> >> >>   regex implementation to base.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>   2.) Ease of use- Flipping on GNU extensions will be as simple as linking
>> >> >>   against libregex, and POSIX-compliant compilations can be guaranteed with a
>> >> >>   REG_POSIX cflag that should be ignored by libc/regex and disables extensions
>> >> >>   in libregex. It is also easier to keep REG_POSIX sane and POSIX pure when
>> >> >>   implemented in this fashion.
>> >> > You are doing very fragile and unmaintainable trick on all consumers
>> >> > there.  Your libregex.so exports the same symbols under the same version
>> >> > as the libc does. In other words, we now provide two binary-incompatible
>> >> > callable symbols, and selection of the symbol by the consumer depends on
>> >> > the DT_NEEDED order and interposing.  For instance, if some program loads
>> >> > a module linked to your libregex, the program behaviour suddenly changes.
>> >> >
>> >> > Since the library provides incompatible implementation, it must use
>> >> > different versions for the symbols, at least to save others time to
>> >> > debug the mess.
>> >>
>> >> What's the best way that you see, going forward?
>> >>
>> >> I'm inclined to throw a Symbol.map into libregex using FBSD_1.1...
>> >> these interfaces are otherwise stable stable within the two respective
>> >> libraries, so I don't see that causing too much pain in the future
>> >> because symbol version changes should be rare.
>> > I do not think this is wise to create contention on the standard FreeBSD'
>> > version namespace.
>> >
>> >>
>> >> On the other hand, I could see wanting to use something more like
>> >> FBSD_LIBREGEX_1.0 so that if the situation does come up one doesn't
>> >> need to double-check that they're not colliding with the other
>> >> implementation.
>> > I like this more.  We still have to carry that symbols with the current
>> > behaviour forever, but at least they would no longer conflict with the
>> > libc' symbols for dynamic linking.
>>
>> Right- that makes sense. Would you object to the following patch? The
>> versioning was botched in the first place because of no VERSION_DEF.
>> I've also dropped the FBSD_ prefix from my previous mention of it
>> because there seems to be no good justification or precedent for it
>> elsewhere in the tree that I've found.
> This looks fine.
>
> I would suggest to add the explanation why a different version name was
> used there, in particular, to highlight that the symbols otherwise
> conflict with the symbols from libc.
>>

Committed as r328263 with explanation in the symbol map for the
difference from libc. Thanks!



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