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Date:      Fri, 26 Oct 2001 14:47:19 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Matthew Dillon <dillon@apollo.backplane.com>
To:        John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.ORG>
Cc:        Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@critter.freebsd.dk>, arch@FreeBSD.ORG, Peter Wemm <peter@wemm.org>, Bakul Shah <bakul@bitblocks.com>
Subject:   Re: 64 bit times revisited..
Message-ID:  <200110262147.f9QLlJ838887@apollo.backplane.com>
References:   <XFMail.011026143448.jhb@FreeBSD.org>

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:>     The phrase 'no freaking way' comes to mind.
:> 
:>     You guys are outsmarting yourselves.  Seconds, ok.  That's it.  Nothing
:>     else.  The *VAST* majority of programs only need seconds, it would be
:>     utterly stupid to require that they mess around with some weird fixed
:>     point quantity when all they want is seconds, no matter how supposedly
:>     'simple' that messing around is (i.e. '>> 64' is not acceptable).
:> 
:>                                               -Matt
:
:Umm.  Dude, this is for the kernel's internal representations.  We can massage
:it in libc or in the kernel before it gets to userland.  We do have to maintain
:compatibility.  Slow down and think about this for a second.
:
:-- 
:
:John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org> -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/

    The best kernel-internal time representnation is ticks, with a simple
    baseline cache mechanism to convert it to other formats (e.g. as
    required by NFS, UFS, userland, etc...).  Nothing beats ticks...
    a binary fixed point format doesn't even come *close* to being better
    then straight ticks.

						-Matt

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