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Date:      Sun, 14 Apr 2013 16:52:34 +0100
From:      Chris Rees <crees@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Warren Block <wblock@wonkity.com>
Cc:        "net@freebsd.org" <net@freebsd.org>, Scott Long <scott4long@yahoo.com>, Rui Paulo <rpaulo@felyko.com>, "current@freebsd.org" <current@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: ipfilter(4) needs maintainer
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On 14 April 2013 16:48, Warren Block <wblock@wonkity.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 14 Apr 2013, Chris Rees wrote:
>
>> On 14 April 2013 01:41, Rui Paulo <rpaulo@felyko.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> 2013/04/13 16:01?Scott Long <scott4long@yahoo.com> ??????:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Maybe something else, but whatever it is, it should be done.  If you and
>>>> Gleb don't want to do this, I will.
>>>
>>>
>>> I already started writing a guide. See here for a very incomplete
>>> version:
>>>
>>> http://people.freebsd.org/~rpaulo/ipf-deprecation/article.html
>>
>>
>> If you're really serious about deprecating ipf, we absolutely have to
>> remove instructions for it from the Handbook as soon as possible;
>> every time a new user comes across instructions you're going to have
>> yet another annoyed party.
>>
>> http://www.bayofrum.net/~crees/patches/remove-ipf.diff
>
>
> This should probably be done like we did for CVS for ports.  Mark it as
> deprecated, then remove the Handbook section once the code is removed.
>
> Is it possible to move ipfilter into a port?

There isn't really a point in moving it to a port, because it still
needs the same level of commitment to make it work; many kernel/net
changes cause it to break, and Rui has already pointed out that no-one
knows if it even works at all on HEAD.

Moving kernel stuff like this to ports isn't really an option :/

Chris



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