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Date:      Fri, 20 Mar 1998 13:24:40 +0100
From:      Eivind Eklund <eivind@yes.no>
To:        Sue Blake <sue@welearn.com.au>, Studded <Studded@dal.net>
Cc:        freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: doc "renovation" project volunteer
Message-ID:  <19980320132440.15913@follo.net>
In-Reply-To: <19980320223201.63694@welearn.com.au>; from Sue Blake on Fri, Mar 20, 1998 at 10:32:02PM %2B1100
References:  <Pine.BSF.3.96.980318181025.10998A-100000@andrsn.stanford.edu> <Pine.BSF.3.95q.980318223140.316G-100000@barnowl.roost.net> <19980319163714.47520@welearn.com.au> <3510DD9B.1591459B@dal.net> <19980319212405.55520@welearn.com.au> <35118D5A.6CA23B79@dal.net> <19980320223201.63694@welearn.com.au>

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On Fri, Mar 20, 1998 at 10:32:02PM +1100, Sue Blake wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 19, 1998 at 01:25:46PM -0800, Studded wrote:
> 
> > 	Errrr... no. At least for me if I have something to say to the newbies
> > list about docs I will say it directly to them and ask them to respond
> > directly to me, or to this list as appropriate.
> 
> This threat is unwelcome. If you are saying that you intend to make this as
> difficult as you possibly can, to the point of acting wilfully against the
> purposes of a mailing list, then I suggest you have picked the wrong person,
> the wrong list, and the wrong day. You did your best to stop the newbies
> from having their own list, and now you want to make use of them for your
> own convenience at the risk of destroying their enclave.

So you're basically saying that if I were to send a message to
newbies@freebsd.org (or whatever the list is called - it's not in the
handbook, which it _should_ be) with
---

Hi, my name is Eivind.  I'm writing a tutorial on how to set up your
shell and editor under FreeBSD to get an optimal working environment
(fit for the individual user, of course).

As I'm trying to cover all levels of FreeBSD experience, I'd be very
grateful if some of you could try to 'test' the tutorial.  Just try to
use it when you feel like it, see if it is useful to you, and tell me
if there are parts you can't understand.

Thanks!

Eivind.
---

then I'm invading your space and attempting to exploit you?


I believe this (for the good of the community) should be allowed, but
with very strict rules about how such messages should be worded, and
possibly somebody to moderate them (ie, "send them to Sue, and she'll
send them on if they're OK"). I do _not_ think all subsequent
communication with members of the newbie list should be indirectly
through the moderator, and I don't think the moderator should be
allowed to re-write requests before sending them on - only reject or
approve them.

BTW: Could you come up with a charter (and the other info) for the
list, so we can add it to the handbook?

Eivind.

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