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Date:      Fri, 6 Mar 2015 16:36:24 -0800
From:      Doug Hardie <bc979@lafn.org>
To:        Charles Swiger <cswiger@mac.com>
Cc:        FreeBSD - <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: OpenSSL Ciphers
Message-ID:  <031A70A3-C348-4E2A-8C30-79F85BA4B4A1@lafn.org>
In-Reply-To: <DC459F71-D819-4BB9-AC1A-4E1D5EB6D4E8@mac.com>
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> On 6 March 2015, at 16:28, Charles Swiger <cswiger@mac.com> wrote:
>=20
> Hi--
>=20
>> On Mar 6, 2015, at 3:58 PM, Doug Hardie <bc979@lafn.org> wrote:
>>> On 3 March 2015, at 23:21, Doug Hardie <bc979@lafn.org> wrote:
>>> The default list of ciphers is quite extensive and includes some =
that are apparently causing some potential security issues.  I have a =
number of applications that use OpenSSL and many don=E2=80=99t have the =
code to restrict the list.  Fixing all that would take quite a bit of =
work.  However, looking into /usr/include/openssl/ssl.h I find a =
definition for the SSL_DEFAULT_CIPHER_LIST.  The comments indicate that =
that list is the one used when the application doesn=E2=80=99t specify =
anything.  I changed its definition to:
>>>=20
>>> #define SSL_DEFAULT_CIPHER_LIST =
"TLSv1+HIGH:!SSLv2:RC4+MEDIUM:!aNULL:!eNULL:!3DES:@STRENGTH:
>>>=20
>>> However, s_connect will still create a connection with the export =
ciphers.  I tried adding !EXPORT to that list and it had no effect.  Is =
the definition actually used by openssl or is it just there for =
documentation?
>>=20
>> Not hearing anything on this, I suspect it=E2=80=99s not very well =
understood.  I have started updating the various servers/clients that =
use SSL/TLS.  The one that has me completely stumped is sendmail.  There =
is a web page which provides instructions =
"http://novosial.org/sendmail/cipherlist/index.html=E2=80=9D.  However, =
when I follow them, I can still establish a connection and deliver mail =
using the export ciphers. =20
>>=20
>> Has anyone successfully restricted the sendmail ciphers?
>=20
> You can see which ciphers openssl will support via a statement like:
>=20
> % openssl ciphers -v =
'TLSv1+HIGH:RC4+MEDIUM:!aNULL:!eNULL:!3DES:@STRENGTH:!EXPORT'
> DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA      SSLv3 Kx=3DDH       Au=3DRSA  Enc=3DAES(256)  =
Mac=3DSHA1
> DHE-DSS-AES256-SHA      SSLv3 Kx=3DDH       Au=3DDSS  Enc=3DAES(256)  =
Mac=3DSHA1
> AES256-SHA              SSLv3 Kx=3DRSA      Au=3DRSA  Enc=3DAES(256)  =
Mac=3DSHA1
> DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA      SSLv3 Kx=3DDH       Au=3DRSA  Enc=3DAES(128)  =
Mac=3DSHA1
> DHE-DSS-AES128-SHA      SSLv3 Kx=3DDH       Au=3DDSS  Enc=3DAES(128)  =
Mac=3DSHA1
> AES128-SHA              SSLv3 Kx=3DRSA      Au=3DRSA  Enc=3DAES(128)  =
Mac=3DSHA1
> RC4-SHA                 SSLv3 Kx=3DRSA      Au=3DRSA  Enc=3DRC4(128)  =
Mac=3DSHA1
> RC4-MD5                 SSLv3 Kx=3DRSA      Au=3DRSA  Enc=3DRC4(128)  =
Mac=3DMD5=20
> RC4-MD5                 SSLv2 Kx=3DRSA      Au=3DRSA  Enc=3DRC4(128)  =
Mac=3DMD5=20
>=20
> ...and you can experiment with TLS negotiation results via something =
like:
>=20
> % openssl s_client -cipher 'AES256-SHA:AES128-SHA' -connect =
www.google.com:443
> [ ... ]
> New, TLSv1/SSLv3, Cipher is AES128-SHA
> Server public key is 2048 bit
> Secure Renegotiation IS supported
> Compression: NONE
> Expansion: NONE
> SSL-Session:
>    Protocol  : TLSv1
>    Cipher    : AES128-SHA
>    Session-ID: [ ... ]
>=20
> Sendmail normally performs crypto via STARTTLS negotiation rather than =
via SMTPS; there's a CipherList option which can be defined via =
sendmail.mc / sendmail.cf.  You might need to recompile sendmail with =
-D_FFR_TLS_1, which I think that novosial page mentions.

sendmail has _FFR_TLS_1 compiled in per th tests in the web page =
mentioned above.  The CipherList option doesn=E2=80=99t seem to work.  I =
can connect and send mail with that in place using the EXPORT ciphers.





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