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Date:      Wed, 3 Apr 2002 17:24:50 -0600
From:      Mike Meyer <mwm-dated-1018308290.c554a0@mired.org>
To:        "Anthony Atkielski" <anthony@freebie.atkielski.com>
Cc:        "Randall Hamilton" <nitedog@silly.pikachu.org>, <chat@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: Anti-Unix Site Runs Unix
Message-ID:  <15531.36674.46968.714882@guru.mired.org>
In-Reply-To: <00c801c1db62$baa46b20$0a00000a@atkielski.com>
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In <00c801c1db62$baa46b20$0a00000a@atkielski.com>, Anthony Atkielski <anthony@freebie.atkielski.com> typed:
> Mike writes:
> > Sorry, but if you make an objective evaluation,
> > Windows *sucks* as a desktop.
> I'd be happy to examine such an evaluation.  Show me one.  My own
> evaluations show the opposite.

No problem. You can find it at <URL:
http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/papers/windowing.html >. Where's yours?

> > It forces you into the click-to-type model
> > for window management, which is the least
> > efficient model of the common models.
> It has other advantages that more than compensate for this.

Since you didn't list these putative advantages, and your statement is
ambiguous, nothing can be said about it. In the unlikely event you
want to make a concrete statement, I'll be glad to point out your
errors.

> > If you're willing to invest a little time
> > learning something radically different ...
> I'm not.  I have other things to do, things for which I require the PC as a
> tool, not as a keen, geeky toy in itself.  It is not cost-effective for me
> to invest any time in learning something radically different, from a
> business standpoint.

I believe that your cost of learning is high enough that such an
investment isn't worth your while. Since my cost of learning is very
low, I get a different result.

> > ... you can shave a *lot* of actions - and
> > thus a lot of time - off those tasks.
> And how much additional revenue will this bring in?

That depends on how fast you work and how much you charge for your
time.

> > Of course, anyone who can set aside their
> > biases will realize that going to something
> > radically different isn't always a good idea,
> > and following the path of least resistance
> > - Windows - may be the right solutions for
> > some people, even if that path does suck.
> Correct.

Those same people will also realize that just because this holds true
for some people doesn't mean it holds true for them all.

	<mike
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