Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 18:33:30 +0300 From: Kimmo Paasiala <kpaasial@gmail.com> To: Lawrence Stewart <lstewart@freebsd.org> Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pkgng 1.0 release schedule, and HEAD switch to pkgng by default schedule Message-ID: <CA%2B7WWSeb8T-S=dUZTGE3amBne4s1rFzge5s54HP6xFp3At1OJA@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <CA%2B7WWScpEd6WoDs2HQop0GST7xu5kQ4-C2D=gBXrunbBUWfchA@mail.gmail.com> References: <20120820194313.GC23607@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> <CAL409KxPwGaCS-BL_tW7P1cX_Jk1V_h8wBdTUjbCWxU8fA_WtQ@mail.gmail.com> <20120820232147.GD23607@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> <5033253D.4060807@FreeBSD.org> <20120821070436.GE23607@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> <50339F1F.3040802@freebsd.org> <CA%2B7WWScpEd6WoDs2HQop0GST7xu5kQ4-C2D=gBXrunbBUWfchA@mail.gmail.com>
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On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 6:26 PM, Kimmo Paasiala <kpaasial@gmail.com> wrote: > On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 5:45 PM, Lawrence Stewart <lstewart@freebsd.org> wrote: >> On 08/21/12 17:04, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: >>> On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 07:05:49AM +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: >>>> On 21/08/2012 00:21, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: >>>>> On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 12:09:46AM +0300, Vitaly Magerya wrote: >>>>>> Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@freebsd.org> wrote: >>>>>>> Please [...] ask question about pkgng [...] >>>>>> >>>>>> What would be the best practice of mixing ports with packages? >>>>>> >>>>>> The use case I have in mind is compiling Xorg ports locally >>>>>> WITH_NEW_XORG and WITH_KMS, and using packages from >>>>>> pkgbeta.freebsd.org for everything else. Is there some mixture of pkg >>>>>> and portmaster flags that allows this kind of setup? >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list >>>>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports >>>>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>>>> >>>>> There is no best practice for that unfortunatly, (as actually) the best for you >>>>> is maybe to build your own pkgng repostories? >>>>> http://wiki.freebsd.org/PkgPrimer#Using_poudriere for example? >>>>> >>>>> We are open to suggestion here :) >>>> >>>> At the moment, it is about as tricky as mixing locally compiled ports >>>> with pkg_tools packages: ie. it might work, or it might leave you a >>>> quivering, sobbing mess lost in a pit of dark despair. >>>> >>>> One thing that should help is a proposal to record metadata like the SVN >>>> revision number of the ports tree used to build repository packages into >>>> the repository catalogue (repo.sqlite), so users can in principle check >>>> out the same revision locally to build their own ports. Unfortunately >>>> no one has written that yet, and its probably too late for it to make it >>>> into release-1.0. >>>> >>> >>> yes but it should definitly find its way to 1.1! >> >> >> Agreed, though ultimately we want to move to making mixing of ports & >> pkgs idiot-proof - something I suspect we're in better shape to do with >> pkgng. As a recently minted roadtester of pkgng and wanting to do the >> same as Vitaly without setting up Poudriere, I had to reverse engineer >> the ports tree svn revision to make sure I could mix and match from >> pkgbeta and stuff I built locally via ports with WITH_NEW_XORG and >> WITH_KMS. This becomes more annoying to manage going forward. >> >> So far I'm enjoying my pkgng experience for the most part and wish to >> thank all those involved in getting it to this stage. >> >> Cheers, >> Lawrence > > What would be needed is a mechanism to query a package repository for > a package with both name and options used to compile the package. > Let's say you have a port installed that requires another port but > that other port must be compiled with a certain option turned on. The > packaging system should be able to tell if the package available from > the remote repository satisfies the requirements or not. The current > system accepts any version of the package because it only looks at the > package name. By 'any version' I mean 'a package with any combination of options' of course, bad wording. -Kimmo
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