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Date:      Wed, 07 Feb 2001 09:12:12 +0100
From:      Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@critter.freebsd.dk>
To:        Greg Black <gjb@gbch.net>
Cc:        Matt Dillon <dillon@earth.backplane.com>, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: soft updates and qmail (RE: qmail IO problems) 
Message-ID:  <41626.981533532@critter>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 07 Feb 2001 18:09:10 %2B1000." <nospam-3a8102a6ad0a69e@maxim.gbch.net> 

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In message <nospam-3a8102a6ad0a69e@maxim.gbch.net>, Greg Black writes:
>Matt Dillon wrote:
>
>>     And, I would say, that for any mailer creating and deleting files in
>>     a spool directory at a high rate, *ONLY* a filesystem with softupdates
>>     turned on or a journaling filesystem such as XFS or ReiserFS can be
>>     considered crash-surviveable.  Synchronous meta-data updates will not
>>     save you (EXT2FS or FFS without softupdates).
>
>It seems to me that you're saying that softupdates is now the
>recommended way to go -- so why does 4.2-Release still have the
>dire warnings in /sys/ufs/ffs/README.softupdates?  Is that file
>obsolete, or do the warnings still apply?

I think that file is obsolete by now.

I also think we should make newfs turn softupdates on by default in
-current.

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