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Date:      Wed, 23 May 2001 08:33:21 +0200
From:      Wilko Bulte <wkb@freebie.demon.nl>
To:        Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
Cc:        Nate Williams <nate@yogotech.com>, Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com>, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: -R for make update ?
Message-ID:  <20010523083321.A4293@freebie.demon.nl>
In-Reply-To: <20010522144242.A29988@xor.obsecurity.org>; from kris@obsecurity.org on Tue, May 22, 2001 at 02:42:42PM -0700
References:  <20010521194828.A789@freebie.demon.nl> <3B0A46CF.9D0CB622@mindspring.com> <20010522125919.D27648@xor.obsecurity.org> <15114.51414.50651.695529@nomad.yogotech.com> <20010522144242.A29988@xor.obsecurity.org>

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On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 02:42:42PM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote:
> On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 02:15:18PM -0600, Nate Williams wrote:
> > > > > Is there any specific reason why one needs to be able to
> > > > > write a lock to the CVS repo when running 'make update'
> > > > > to get a freshly checked out source?
> > > > 
> > > > Yeah: you aren't running your CVS server in "pserver"
> > > > mode, and so are trying to do a lock, either in your
> > > > local copy, or over NFS.
> > > > 
> > > > If you run your repository in pserver mode, the CVS server
> > > > will be connected to over the network, instead of attacking
> > > > your CVS repo directly, and you won't have the problem you
> > > > are seeing, since the cvs server will be able to get the
> > > > lock, no problem.
> > > 
> > > It will also be freakishly slow, and use massive amounts of temp
> > > space.
> > 
> > No slower than cvs using rsh/ssh, although it does tend to create alot
> > of inodes in /tmp.  (It doesn't create alot of temp space, other than
> > what is used to create the directories...)
> 
> Yes, using rsh/ssh is also slow, but we were talking about *local*
> access, which has none of those drawbacks.  -R makes cvs operations go

Yes, this is a local repo indeed.

> quite a bit faster, and AFAIK is perfectly safe if you're using a
> private repo for which you know there will be no contention.

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