Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 19:56:08 -0700 From: Chris <portmaster@BSDforge.com> To: Matthias Andree <matthias.andree@gmx.de> Cc: <freebsd-ports@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: mail/mailman v3? Message-ID: <37c6345886eca3be24a701231483e88b@udns.ultimatedns.net> In-Reply-To: <6d669657-05fb-df71-000a-f67523609327@gmx.de>
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On Thu, 30 Apr 2020 02:03:20 +0200 Matthias Andree matthias=2Eandree@gmx=2Ede s= aid > Am 28=2E04=2E20 um 22:02 schrieb Chris: > > In sentiment I am inline with your thoughts as well=2E > > Would it be a worthy project to create a mailman(2)-lts port? > > I'd be fully up for helping, and or creating it myself=2E > > There's a port that's a shim for py2=2Ex-->py3=2Ex called 2to3, or somethin= g > > like that=2E It also wouldn't be that difficult to simply modify mailman(= 2) > > to adopt the py3=2Ex language changes=2E=20 >=20 > Given that Mailman is mainly a text processing machine with various > heads (mail, web and CGI, command line) interfaces, and one of the ideas > driving the incompatible Python 3 was to clean up the delineation of the > strings/bytes/unicode types from one another and see to encoding=2E we'd > be in for lots of - ironically speaking - "fun" - meaning code audits, > revisions, possibly explicit code to write for the front lines to > properly decode external input and encode internal output=2E The string stuff is the challenge (in python), and having just taken a closer look, 3=2Ex makes some changes in this area as well=2E Which only makes the same challenges _different_=2E :( >=20 > I haven't looked into too much detail, but attaining 100% conversion and > test coverage would be a challenge and possibly a major undertaking=2E >=20 > I'd assume had it been as simple as 2to3 or py-futurize or adopting > py-six, someone might have done that already=2E After looking closer, I'm inclined to say the (work) load appears close to the same=2E Only the tasks have changed=2E I really like Perl a lot more for all this string/byte handling stuff=2E Maybe Majordomo? B-} --Chris
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