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Date:      Tue, 27 May 2008 10:20:37 -0700
From:      Julian Elischer <julian@elischer.org>
To:        Alexander Leidinger <Alexander@Leidinger.net>
Cc:        Frank Behrens <frank@pinky.sax.de>, cvs-src@freebsd.org, src-committers@freebsd.org, cvs-all@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/usr.sbin/jexec jexec.8 jexec.c
Message-ID:  <483C42E5.8060309@elischer.org>
In-Reply-To: <20080527165637.113110t131433i2s@webmail.leidinger.net>
References:  <200805261157.m4QBvnpF025029@repoman.freebsd.org>	<200805261848.m4QImNbB039362@post.frank-behrens.de> <20080527165637.113110t131433i2s@webmail.leidinger.net>

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Alexander Leidinger wrote:
> Quoting Frank Behrens <frank@pinky.sax.de> (from Mon, 26 May 2008 
> 20:48:23 +0200):
> 
>> The rc.conf jail framework also requires unique hostnames for jails, 
>> because the jail-ids are
>> write to /var/run.
> 
> On a related note: JIDs are not known in advance, so doing some rc.d 
> stuff which associates a specific X with a jail is not easy. So for 
> example the zfs feature to  assign a zfs filesystem to a jail is 
> practiaclly useless at the moment for stuff which shall be available 
> after a reboot without admin intervention (it is not guaranteed that the 
> jails get the same JID again on reboot).
> 
> In http://www.leidinger.net/FreeBSD/current-patches/jail.diff I have a 
> patch which also uses the hostname of a jail to allow access to /dev/io 
> in the jail (if the admin of the host made it visible in the jail). If 
> ZFS would use the hostname, it would make it more useful (but maybe we 
> would need some magic in the jail code to notify ZFS about a new jail, I 
> haven't checked how ZFS is working in this regard).
> 
> So basically we need some unique value which is handed out by the admin 
> and doesn't change after a reboot. For me the hostname is a good 
> approximation for this (my hostnames are unique, and I have full control 
> over them).
> 
> Bye,
> Alexander.
> 


using Jail identifiers that are allocated also fits into vimage, 
however vimage is hierarchical..

"."        is the base jail/vimage.
".foo"     is a jail/vimage called foo that was made in "."
".foo.bar" is a jail/vimage called bar that was made inside ".foo"




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