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Date:      Wed, 2 Apr 2014 13:52:08 +0100
From:      David Chisnall <theraven@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Daniel Kalchev <daniel@digsys.bg>
Cc:        freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Leaving the Desktop Market
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On 2 Apr 2014, at 13:40, Daniel Kalchev <daniel@digsys.bg> wrote:

>=20
> On 02.04.14 12:22, David Chisnall wrote:
>> The use case that PulseAudio was [over]designed to fix was plugging =
in USB headphones (or connecting a Bluetooth headset) and having =
existing audio streams redirected there.
>=20
> Please don't ever make this behavior the default!
>=20
> Imagine, you have an audio setup mixing sound and pushing it out and =
then you plug in some USB device that also has "audio capability" and =
your production sound gets redirected there. A nightmare!

Do you really think that someone is going to be setting up an audio =
mixing environment without configuring their sound setup?  Or that =
people doing this make up the majority of users?

> Knowing what you do and the system behaving in predictable way is one =
of the beauties of UNIX and FreeBSD in particular.

I agree, however sane defaults are also very important to a useable =
system and these are not mutually exclusive.  It is perfectly possible =
to have a system that has defaults that do what most users do (or a =
choice of defaults based on a simple selection of typical uses), but =
which is also configurable if you have unusual requirements.  This is =
what we aim to do with FreeBSD. =20

> Don't make it so that even idiots can use it because then, only idiots =
will be using it!

This kind of argument has no place in FreeBSD.  You are not a better =
person because you use things that are hard to use.  You are not a =
better person because you choose to do things the difficult way.  You =
are not a better person because you prove your superiority by making =
life hard for others.

David




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