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Date:      Sat, 30 Mar 1996 19:33:53 +0100 (MET)
From:      Andreas Klemm <andreas@knobel.gun.de>
To:        paul@netcraft.co.uk
Cc:        joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org, handy@sxt2.space.lockheed.com
Subject:   Re: Fixit Floppy Broken?
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.3.92.960330184426.206B-100000@knobel.gun.de>
In-Reply-To: <199603301231.MAA00590@originat.demon.co.uk>

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On Sat, 30 Mar 1996, Paul Richards wrote:

> In reply to J Wunsch who said
> >
> > All the binaries on the fixit floppy (actually, only one large super-
> > binary anway) are gzipp'ed.
> >
> > > once, but never really get anywhere.  If I try booting with it again it
> > > doesn't work.
> >
> > However, it's *not* the fixit floppy that's broken, it's the kernel on
> > the boot (installation) floppy.  You can boot a plain 2.1R installation
> > floppy, select F)ixit, and stick in a 2.2-SNAP fixit floppy then.
>
> I strongly disagree.  The fixit floppy needs to be completely redone. I
> wasn't aware that there was a single gzipped binary on it (has this
> changed recently?) but that's frankly ridiculous. The fixit floppy
> should work on any system as a last resort tool to recover from a fatal
> error. Support for gzipped binaries isn't even present in a lot of kernels!
>
> I think it's a design error to have fixit be shoe-horned into sysinstall.
> Let's just have a plain and simple set of tools. If you're damaged to the
> point where you need to use it then you're into the "expert" area and
> a nice gui is not very relevant and is just a waste of space.
>
> Now, if someone is concerned about naive users spamming themselves then
> perhaps we need to think about an automated recovery disk but that's not
> what fixit is all about.

I think you're deadly right in this point...
A simple nice boot disk with a generic kernel with tools like:
fsck, scsi, ed, cat, more, newfs, mkfs, ls, rm ... and ,friends' is
badly needed ;-)

And of course a nicely working MAKEDEV, that creates the needed /dev/
entries, if you have for example 2 SCSI disks and perhaps even more.

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