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Date:      Tue, 5 Aug 2003 07:30:14 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Dmitry Morozovsky <marck@rinet.ru>
To:        freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: kern/55163: [patch] hide kld system details from jails
Message-ID:  <200308051430.h75EUEtm018903@freefall.freebsd.org>

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The following reply was made to PR kern/55163; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Dmitry Morozovsky <marck@rinet.ru>
To: Yar Tikhiy <yar@FreeBSD.org>
Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org
Subject: Re: kern/55163: [patch] hide kld system details from jails
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 18:22:53 +0400 (MSD)

 On Tue, 5 Aug 2003, Yar Tikhiy wrote:
 
 YT> > Well, security thru obscurity is not the best technique ;-)
 YT> > However, it seems that reveal too much info about host system for jail user,
 YT> > or even for jail admin, is not always the best. We plan to use it together with
 YT> > Pawel Jakub Dawidek's jailfsstat kernel module.
 YT> >
 YT> > This code path is rare, so no performance problem I think. Any objections?
 YT>
 YT> The only objection I can see is that a generalized framework for
 YT> restricting system interfaces within a jail should be developed
 YT> instead of sticking in "if (foo_allowed)" everywhere.
 
 In general I do agree; however, as far as I can see, in 5.x this functionality
 *is* being developed in general way via MAC, which has no chances to be
 back-ported;  secondly, due to limited lifetime frame of 4.x branch, the
 process of general development would not be successful => I suppose band-aid
 with if(xxx_allowed) would be appropriate to achieve desired functionality.
 
 Well, as there are objections, I suppose the discussion should be moved to
 -stable@ ?
 
 Sincerely,
 D.Marck                                     [DM5020, MCK-RIPE, DM3-RIPN]
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