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Date:      Thu, 15 Mar 2001 18:59:46 -0600
From:      Mike Meyer <mwm@mired.org>
To:        Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org>
Cc:        chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Stallman stalls again
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Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org> types:
> At 01:07 AM 3/15/2001, Mike Meyer wrote:
> >You have as yet to prove that he advocates stealing. All you've done
> >is quoted him encouraging people to share software. 
> And then saying that piracy is "sharing." Oh, and he also directly 
> advocates piracy during public appearances.

Describing actions so they fit the world-view you want people to adopt
is a an accepted practice in political arguments. Stallmans' acts are
exactly paralleled by the SPA's propoganda posters that say "Copying
is theft". They are quite literally calling you a thief for using
FreeBSD.

You've shown me two separate quotes witn no context that, if put
together, imply he advocates theft. They no more prove that he has
done that than the SPA's propoganda - especially when tied with
Allchin's recent comments - proves that they want to make free
software illegal.

> >Or are you such an
> >extremist that you think that no one shold be allowed to share
> >software? 
> Do you think I'd be using BSD if I did? It appears that you're
> now moving toward the paranoid loony fringe of the FSF, which
> has lately been touting this absurd, imaginary "threat."

I'd say I'm reacting to a paranoid, looney dupe of the publishers
industry.

Now that the public has become aware of publishers attacks on fair use
and artists rights, they are trying to demonize Stallman et. al. to
provide an excuse and you're helping them. The only problem is that
their attacks date back to at least 1976; well before the GNU
Manifesto, the Free Software Foundation, and public access to the
internet - much less the availability of broadband access that you've
tried to blame.

	<mike
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