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Date:      Mon, 7 Mar 2016 16:23:40 -0800
From:      Doug Hardie <bc979@lafn.org>
To:        Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de>
Cc:        FreeBSD Questions <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Upcoming Releases
Message-ID:  <DE7BAC1A-0B40-4B2A-861A-6AE7B16FAC0D@lafn.org>
In-Reply-To: <20160305181742.9c3abe96.freebsd@edvax.de>
References:  <EEFD0376-2038-4801-9A7A-BF342B66F029@lafn.org> <20160305181742.9c3abe96.freebsd@edvax.de>

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> On 5 March 2016, at 09:17, Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de> wrote:
>=20
> On Fri, 4 Mar 2016 16:58:20 -0800, Doug Hardie wrote:
>> I am running a number of 9.3 systems and am planning the next
>> system update for them.  As my client schedules have evolved,
>> it now turns out that about the only time I will be able to
>> bring them down for an update will be in June 2016.  I suspect
>> the next available time will be in June 2017.
>=20
> Your maintenance schedule is out of sync with the FreeBSD release
> schedule. :-)

Yes - but unfortunately I would have to change the schedules for a =
number of schools to change my maintenance schedule.  I don't see that =
happening in the foreseeable future.

>=20
>=20
>=20
>> The release schedules indicate that 10.3 will be out by this
>> June but 11.0 will not.  Back when 10.0 arrived, I decided to
>> skip it as there were issues that would require rework of my
>> applications both for 10 and then again for 11.  Unfortunately,
>> I didn't bother to document those and my memory of the specific
>> issues is long gone.
>=20
> In this case, there's a nice mechanism that let's you keep your
> installed applications running without modification: Install the
> compatibility packages (compat9x-[i386|amd64] on 10, and similarly
> on 11). But be careful: It doesn't work all the time! Testing is
> required. And as soon as you start upgrading installed applications,
> the _real_ will start. :-)
>=20
> A new installation on a test system, with a snapshot of the data
> required, and with configuration altered as needed, usually is the
> most comfortable way to deal with it. If everything works as intended,
> it's easy to switch over from 9.3 to 10.3 during the maintenance
> period.
>=20
>=20
>=20
>> So I am trying to decide to upgrade to 10.3 this year or wait till
>> next for 11.0.=20
>=20
> That would leave you with 9.3 being out of support for some time.
> Security updates won't be backported, so in worst case, you'd have
> to do it yourself (if relevant and urgently required). In such a
> case, read the security and announcement mailing lists, and check
> the security audits for all your installed applications.

Yes it would be unsupported, but it would still be the same system it is =
today and functioning properly.  By and large the security updates have =
not affected what I have running.  I have been running since FreeBSD =
2.7.  I don't see that as a big issue.

>=20
>=20
>=20
>> Is there anywhere a listing of the high level changes from 9 to
>> 10 to 11?  I know about the switch from GCC to Clang but that's
>> all I remember.
>=20
> During FreeBSD 9, the transition to pkg and the changes in the ports
> architecture happened, but with 9.3, you're probably already using
> the current versions.
>=20
> You can find more information here:
>=20
> http://www.freebsd.org/releng/index.html
>=20
> https://www.freebsd.org/releases/9.3R/announce.html
> https://www.freebsd.org/releases/9.3R/relnotes.html
> https://www.freebsd.org/releases/9.3R/errata.html
>=20
> https://www.freebsd.org/releases/10.0R/announce.html
> https://www.freebsd.org/releases/10.0R/relnotes.html
> https://www.freebsd.org/releases/10.0R/errata.html
>=20
> https://www.freebsd.org/releases/10.1R/announce.html
> https://www.freebsd.org/releases/10.1R/relnotes.html
> https://www.freebsd.org/releases/10.1R/errata.html
>=20
> https://www.freebsd.org/releases/10.2R/announce.html
> https://www.freebsd.org/releases/10.2R/relnotes.html
> https://www.freebsd.org/releases/10.2R/errata.html
>=20
> https://www.freebsd.org/releases/10.3R/schedule.html
>=20
> https://www.freebsd.org/releases/11.0R/schedule.html

What I was hoping to find was some form of informal, preliminary version =
of the release notes or announcements for 10.3 and 11.  I seem to recall =
some sort of discussion of that back when the decision was made to drop =
bind from the base.  I wasn't able to find it though.

>=20
>=20
> --=20
> Polytropon
> Magdeburg, Germany
> Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
> Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...

=E2=80=94 Doug




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