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Date:      Mon, 14 Aug 2000 12:50:30 -0400
From:      Nathan Vidican <webmaster@wmptl.com>
To:        Mike Meyer <mwm@mired.org>
Cc:        questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Dual-Athlon vs Dual-PIII ... opinions?
Message-ID:  <39982356.C9B1018@wmptl.com>
References:  <14739.16001.736066.397333@guru.mired.org>

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Mike Meyer wrote:
> 
> Nathan Vidican writes:
> > Dual Athlon based systems are not available (yet). I'd still reccomend
> > you go with AMD though. I find that if you spend the extra money that
> > you would have spent on the CPU's/Mainboard to be running Intel on more
> > Ram/better Disks/etc, that you can generally build a better system. I've
> 
> Makes sense - spend the money you saved on the CPU on making other
> things faster, and the system will perform better. Considering how
> much faster CPUs are than everything else these days, that makes
> sense. The same logic applices to IDE disks vs. SCSI disks for
> single-user, single-disk workstations. But...
> 
> > got a dual PIII 500mhz machine with 768megs of ram, and to be
> > completely honest with you I find almost no difference in processing
> > speed to that of the 800mhz Athlon system I run at home. Both are
> > running the same release of FreeBSD (4.0-STABLE).  The Athlon has
> > only got 256megs of RAM, but I never end up using all of it anyhow.
> 
> Seems like your experience contradicts your own advice; you bought
> more memory than you normally use anyway!
> 
> >       I know this is a little hipocritical in that I actually used a dual
> > PIII system myself, but I tell you looking back I'd have MUCH rather
> > spent the money on some faster hardrives than the CPU's. I'd stick with
> > AMD, (in fact I have been now for quite a while), on any new box. I've
> > setup somewhere between 30 and 40 AMD K62-500mhz machines to run as
> > FreeBSD servers by now, and have never regretted doing so. The CPU's
> > were cheap enough that I could usually double the ram or storage
> > capacity for the same price as using an Intel CPU would have been.
> 
> My own experiences contradict yours. My primary workstation has dual
> 400MHz PII Xeons and an all-SCSI disk subsystem, with 256 meg of
> ram. I've got an 500MHz AMD K6-2 with a UDMA-33 drive and 64 Meg of
> ram. Even though the Xeon box starts two copies of setiathome at boot
> time, and I don't bother with X on the AMD box, the AMD box just seems
> sluggish. Both are usually running -CURRENT less than a week old.
> 
> On the other hand - the current cost of a PII Xeon CPU is about what I
> paid for the AMD cpu+motherboard last month.
> 
> Personally, if I were going to build a workstation these days, I would
> feel remiss if I didn't at least price a dual Celeron system. The new
> celerons have on-chip cache that runs at CPU speed.
> 
>         <mike
> 
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There is a HUGE difference in performance between the AMD K6-2 500mhz
and a PII 500/pIII 500mhz; the architecture of the CPU is different.
You're comparing apples-to-oranges here. To be fair, run a 500mhz Athlon
system next to a 500mhz Xeon box and see what you come up with. This
posting was regarding the Athlon... not the K6-2. I'd pit my Athlon
800mhz box against your dual PII 400 box any day of the week, it's
anything but sluggish. Seti@Home packets usually 6-10 hours depending on
how much other stuff I'm running on it.


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Nathan Vidican
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