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Date:      Tue, 3 Jun 2003 02:29:01 +0200
From:      Michael Nottebrock <michaelnottebrock@gmx.net>
To:        kde@freebsd.org
Cc:        ports@freebsd.org
Subject:   x11/kde3 - Please end the bikeshedding.
Message-ID:  <200306030229.04850.michaelnottebrock@gmx.net>

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All the points have been made in my and Will's previous replies, but to=20
summarize:

1.) The updated metaport restores historical behaviour.

2.) A metaport is supposed to provide something complete. It is not suppose=
d=20
to simplify updating or to be ports-in-ports subsystem. This metaport does=
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provide the complete K Desktop Environment, nothing more, nothing less.=20
Because of the ports-system inherent difficulties with all metaports, we=20
actually ***encourage users to pkg_delete kde3*** once they are comfortable=
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with their customized KDE installation.

3.) There were user complaints about the previous situation. People were no=
t=20
always happy with the choice that was made about what the KDE metaport shou=
ld=20
consist of. They were right. KDE is defined by the KDE project. The new=20
metaport provides KDE as defined by the KDE project.

4.) Look at the kde ports and the metaport carefully. No functionality was=
=20
removed today, you can still install a minimal or whatever customized kde=20
from packages or ports without any additonal hassle. In fact, we _added_ a=
=20
feature: The MINIMAL_KDE variable.


Thus:

The changes will not be reverted, nor augmented or reduced. Further=20
bikeshedding over this is unnecessary and will only produce mailing list=20
noise.

On behalf of the KDE FreeBSD team,
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