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Date:      Tue, 08 Apr 2008 16:16:33 +0000
From:      "Poul-Henning Kamp" <phk@phk.freebsd.dk>
To:        John E Hein <jhein@timing.com>
Cc:        arch@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: tt_ioctl 
Message-ID:  <40373.1207671393@critter.freebsd.dk>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 08 Apr 2008 09:30:30 CST." <18427.36758.266944.74378@gromit.timing.com> 

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In message <18427.36758.266944.74378@gromit.timing.com>, John E Hein writes:
>Back in 2005-10, phk added the tt_{open,ioctl,etc.} inline calls in
>sys/tty.h allowing drivers that hook into the tty layer a way to
>override or supplement the basic tty functions with their own
>flavoring.
>
>They were also connected up in kern/tty.c - well most of them.
>
>tt_ioctl remains unused.
>
>What about the following:

That was sort of deliberate, based on a theory that our ttys should
behave as much the same as possible, no matter what driver was behind
them, and therefore all ioctls should be handled as linedisc.

If a driver needs a special ioctl to do something like load firmware,
that should, IMO, not happen on a tty but on a special control device
which is not used for login-sessions.

If for no other reason, then for purely security reasons.

As always, I'm prepared to be persuaded by good examples :-)

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Poul-Henning Kamp       | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20
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