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Date:      Tue, 16 Jan 2001 03:50:09 +0900 (JST)
From:      Hajimu UMEMOTO <ume@FreeBSD.org>
To:        bright@wintelcom.net
Cc:        arch@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: dynamic vs static sysctls?
Message-ID:  <20010116.035009.71081161.ume@FreeBSD.org>
In-Reply-To: <20010115103757.B7240@fw.wintelcom.net>
References:  <20010115100618.Y7240@fw.wintelcom.net> <20010116.033215.41625863.ume@FreeBSD.org> <20010115103757.B7240@fw.wintelcom.net>

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>>>>> On Mon, 15 Jan 2001 10:37:57 -0800
>>>>> Alfred Perlstein <bright@wintelcom.net> said:

bright> Well all the sysctl's I've added have been dynamic, I think the
bright> only reason for the 'static' sysctls is to give sysctl() a
bright> numeric way to get at the sysctls, which isn't very useful 
bright> when we have getsysctlbyname().

You mean dynamic sysctl is just use of OID_AUTO, right?  I thought
SYSCTL_ADD_INT().

bright> Using a dynamic sysctl It would reduce the delta by quite a bit.

Indeed.

bright> The stuff your patch does seems to allow programs to use the old
bright> (IMHO) depricated sysctl() versus getsysctlbyname() function.

bright> No one I know wants to use sysctl instead of getsysctlbyname afaik,
bright> however, I would like to know if my opinions are the what we're
bright> aiming for.

Okey, I'll change to use OID_AUTO.

bright> Any other comments?

One question.  How can I detect newly added sysctl?  In static, I can
just do by #ifdef OID.

bright> Besideds the way the sysctl is done, the change is pretty nice
bright> to see, but will need mplocking later.

Do you mean ALLPROC_LOCK(AP_EXCLUSIVE) / ALLPROC_LOCK(AP_RELEASE) ?
If so, I'll move nforks++ between them.

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