Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 23:39:39 -0500 (EST) From: Kenneth Wayne Culver <culverk@wam.umd.edu> To: "Brian T.Schellenberger" <bts@babbleon.org> Cc: "Justin L. Boss" <jlboss@yahoo.com>, "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: Re: NVIDIA 3D FreeBSD Drivers Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0203032337160.17428-100000@rac3.wam.umd.edu> In-Reply-To: <20020304032812.D6305BA05@i8k.babbleon.org>
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On Sun, 3 Mar 2002, Brian T.Schellenberger wrote: > On Sunday 03 March 2002 09:53 pm, Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote: > > > I don't think I'm missing your point, I just disagree with it. > > > > > > Instead of fighting for FreeBSD I'd rather fight for open source > > > software, and the nvidia Linux "solution" is to include Linux in their > > > closed-source world. You want them to include FreeBSD in their > > > closed-source world as well. > > > > > > This seems more like betrayal to the cause than fighting for the cause to > > > me, and I, for one, am not going to fight for that. > > > > > > A petition for them to release their information so that FreeBSD *and* > > > other O/S's could take advantage of their hardware--*that*, I would > > > support. > > > > > > But not this. > > > > So let me get this straight... You would rather wait for something that is > > never going to happen than see usable 3d drivers come out for > > FreeBSD. This is unrealistic. Nvidia is legally unable to release source > > for their drivers, and I think we should be happy that they want to > > support FreeBSD at all. There is no legal or moral obligation for them to > > release specs for their cards or open-source drivers. The fact that they > > are releasing drivers at all is enough for me (and most other people that > > actually want to USE the 3d support that they paid for.) > > True. > > And I'm under no legal or moral obligation to buy their products as long as > they insist on sticking with proprietary solutions. > > I still find this "legal obligation" not to release them to be so much > gobbly-gook: They *chose* to use solutions that were so encumbered, and I > *choose* to avoid them as a result. > > I'd be happy to encourage them to pursue other strategies. I don't want to > join some movement to beg the corporacracy to drop some scraps in our bowl, > too. I'm not going to prostitute myself that way. > > I do all my prostitution on company time instead :-) > > [I really don't think of myself as being nearly as much of an open-source > radical as I seem to be coming across in this little debate, but I guess I > wish that we could have enough pride in what FreeBSD has accomplished as a > freeware project that we wouldn't let the attractiveness of a slightly > smoother curve on the blast from the frag granade have us all begging to be > treated just like the "big boys" of the O/S's.] > > [[Really, I never I knew I felt this strongly about it before . . . ]] basically I got my video card for free. I don't want to pay for another card. I'd much rather get 3d drivers for the card I have. Ken To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
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