Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 20:59:38 +0100 From: "Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg" <listsub@401.cx> To: Ted Mittelstaedt <tedm@toybox.placo.com> Cc: Garance A Drosehn <gad@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Please don't change Beastie to another crap logo such as NetBSD!!! Message-ID: <420E602A.4030904@401.cx> In-Reply-To: <LOBBIFDAGNMAMLGJJCKNAEGBFAAA.tedm@toybox.placo.com> References: <LOBBIFDAGNMAMLGJJCKNAEGBFAAA.tedm@toybox.placo.com>
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Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Garance A Drosehn [mailto:gad@FreeBSD.org] >>Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 1:59 PM >>To: Ted Mittelstaedt; freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org >>Subject: Re: Please don't change Beastie to another crap logo such as >>NetBSD!!! >> >> >> >>And frankly, most FreeBSD commiters do not read the -advocacy or >>-questions mailing lists (I never read advocacy, for instance). So >>maybe only three or four committers have explicitly expressed support >>for a LOGO CONTEST. > > Are you just too dense to understand that supporting a logo contest > automatically implies that you are unsatisfied with the current > logo? If you like Beastie why on earth would you want a contest > to replace him? I like Beastie! I wear shirts with Beastie! I have a 45cm tall sticker of Beastie on the front of my fridge, clearly visible to anyone that enters my appartment. I have "Powered by FreeBSD" stickers sporting Beastie on my laptop. I have Beastie as screensaver and as desktop background. Still, Im not to dense to realize that there is a need for a new logo. You, on the other hand, seem to be to dense* to realize the difference between a logo and a mascot. > > For the last time, it is not the contest that I and others are > objecting to. It is what you intend to do with the results of > the contest - that is, replace Beastie. Not replace. Complement. Some people would be extremely helped by a more proffesional looking logo. Therefor, the idea was put forward to complement Beastie with a logo useable in the commercial world. (Actually, the idea was never presented, it was drafted and then leaked before finished). This would mean that the people that likes Beastie can continue using it, while the people needing a more proffesional logo would also see their needs fullfilled. However, some people does not need a new logo, and they seem to fight furiously to stop a change that basically would not affect them at all. I simply fail to understand their stand in this. -- R * When I call you dense I do not seriously mean to question your intelligence. I respect you as the author of a very good book and I value your contributions to the community as well as your opinions, but in this matter I just find it impossible to understand your point of view.
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