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Date:      Mon, 9 Oct 2000 14:01:58 -0700
From:      Gregory Sutter <gsutter@zer0.org>
To:        "Daniel C. Sobral" <dcs@newsguy.com>
Cc:        Doug Barton <DougB@gorean.org>, Jordan Hubbard <jkh@winston.osd.bsdi.com>, Matt Dillon <dillon@earth.backplane.com>, Warner Losh <imp@village.org>, Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven <jruigrok@via-net-works.nl>, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/etc inetd.conf
Message-ID:  <20001009140158.A66991@klapaucius.zer0.org>
In-Reply-To: <39E18F50.E7BBCB95@newsguy.com>; from dcs@newsguy.com on Mon, Oct 09, 2000 at 06:26:40PM %2B0900
References:  <521.971068411@winston.osd.bsdi.com> <39E15630.7B4A8FE6@gorean.org> <39E18F50.E7BBCB95@newsguy.com>

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On 2000-10-09 18:26 +0900, "Daniel C. Sobral" <dcs@newsguy.com> wrote:
> Doug Barton wrote:
> > 
> >         However, isn't all of this moot in light of the planned (existing?)
> > options to sysinstall to specify exactly what to enable? My personal
> > feeling is that _everything_ should be off by default (in
> > /etc/defaults/rc.conf) and the user should pick specifically what to
> > enable.
> 
> Don't go the way of certain Linux distributions, where installation
> takes one hour and a half: half an hour to install, and one hour before
> that telling it what to install.

I think that many are not thinking about the possiblities of the 
fully package-based system and sysinstall version n+1.  Besides 
specifying exactly what should be installed/enabled (in a "Custom")
install, sysinstall can have any number of prepackaged installs,
such as "Most Secure" (with nothing running), "Network Secure" 
(with just sshd), "Home Desktop" (with sshd, ftpd, fingerd, nfsd
default exporting to 10.x.x.x, and a medium-security firewall),
or any number of other setups.  Average Joe, as well as people 
who know that one of the setups fits their needs exactly, will 
have a 20-second configuration step.  People who like custom, like
me (I've _never_ used anything but custom and minimal installs), 
can spend an hour frobbing before installing.

Once the code for selecting individual configuration items is in
sysinstall, the code for having prepackaged configuration sets is
simplistic.

Greg
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