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Date:      Wed, 12 Dec 2001 16:23:09 +1030
From:      Greg Lehey <grog@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Wilko Bulte <wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl>
Cc:        Matthew Dillon <dillon@apollo.backplane.com>, Mike Smith <msmith@FreeBSD.org>, Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com>, Joerg Wunsch <joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de>, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: RAID performance (was: cvs commit: src/sys/kern subr_diskmbr.c)
Message-ID:  <20011212162309.J82733@monorchid.lemis.com>
In-Reply-To: <20011211234151.A72046@freebie.xs4all.nl>
References:  <200112101754.fBAHsRV01202@mass.dis.org> <200112101813.fBAIDKo47460@apollo.backplane.com> <20011210192251.A65380@freebie.xs4all.nl> <200112101830.fBAIU4w47648@apollo.backplane.com> <20011211110633.M63585@monorchid.lemis.com> <20011211153437.A69755@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20011212090034.C67986@monorchid.lemis.com> <20011211234151.A72046@freebie.xs4all.nl>

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On Tuesday, 11 December 2001 at 23:41:51 +0100, Wilko Bulte wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 12, 2001 at 09:00:34AM +1030, Greg Lehey wrote:
>> On Tuesday, 11 December 2001 at 15:34:37 +0100, Wilko Bulte wrote:
>>> On Tue, Dec 11, 2001 at 11:06:33AM +1030, Greg Lehey wrote:
>>>> On Monday, 10 December 2001 at 10:30:04 -0800, Matthew Dillon wrote:
>>>>>
>
> ..
>
>>>>>     and will go down the drain for reads if you cross a stripe -
>>>>>     something that is quite common I think.
>>>>
>>>> I think this is what Mike was referring to when talking about parity
>>>> calculation.  In any case, going across a stripe boundary is not a
>>>> good idea, though of course it can't be avoided.  That's one of the
>>>> arguments for large stripes.
>>>
>>> In a former life I was involved with a HB striping product for SysVr2
>>> that had a slightly modified filesystem that 'knew' when it was
>>> working on a striped disk. And as it know, it avoided posting I/O s
>>> that crossed stripes.
>>
>> So what did it do with user requests which crossed stripes?
>
> Memory is dim, but I think the fs code created a second i/o to the
> driver layer. So the fs never sent out an i/o that the driver layer had
> to break up.

That's what Vinum does.

> In case of a pre-fetch while reading I think the f/s would just
> pre-fetch until the stripe border and not bother sending out a
> second i/o down.

Yes, that's reasonable.

> In the end all of this benchmarked quite favorably.  Note that this
> was 386/486 era, with the classic SysV filesystem.

I don't think that UFS would behave that differently, just faster :-)

Greg
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