Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 11:05:14 -0400 From: Graham Todd <gtodd@bellanet.org> To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Using Subversion for binary distribution? Message-ID: <465C412A.9000709@bellanet.org> In-Reply-To: <20070525115242.GA31555@uk.tiscali.com> References: <20070525074925.GA19294@uk.tiscali.com> <20070525104342.GA2761@kobe.laptop> <20070525115242.GA31555@uk.tiscali.com>
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Brian Candler wrote: > On Fri, May 25, 2007 at 01:43:42PM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > >> PS: Have you already tried systems like sysutils/cfengine and given up >> on them for your own reasons? > > Actually, it's the FreeBSD "upgrade" process which I've given up on. Doing a > binary upgrade leaves loads of crud around on your hard drive, and doesn't > handle config files properly (i.e. no "mergemaster" support). Doing source > upgrades, well, requires lots of compiling, and a lot more disk space again. > > For this reason, I've migrated most of the machines I use to Linux - sorry > :-) My laptop remains on FreeBSD (5.4), but maybe even that'll have to go > soon. but cfengine is so featureful and can do so many things :-) ... There's also some other "simpler than cfengine" tools like radmind (in ports - see http://rsug.itd.umich.edu/software/radmind/) and isconf (http://www.isconf.org/) that could likely be combined with pkg_ tools, a build host, source control for config files, etc. in order to simplify things for a small network of machines. I found that "out of the box" it's easier keeping multiple FreeBSD machines synched up than it was with Linux - though I imagine Fedora and Ubuntu have made great strides since then. What Linux tools are you talking about? apt, yum et. al.? ps: I also tried Colin Percival's "binary upgrade" on half dozen or so machines and it worked flawlessly - thanks Colin! :-) http://www.daemonology.net/blog/2006-11-26-freebsd-6.1-to-6.2-binary-upgrade.html At the time Colin pointed out that hosting one's own update/upgrade server was not for the faint of heart. My needs were very modest though and in most cases running "portupgrade -aPP" after the upgrade took only a few minutes. I haven't done this with a "reboot and upgrade" script but I imagine it would be possible. -- Graham Todd x2443
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