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Date:      Sun, 2 Nov 2008 15:48:43 +0100
From:      Peter Schuller <peter.schuller@infidyne.com>
To:        John Nielsen <lists@jnielsen.net>
Cc:        Nicolas Martyanoff <khaelin@gmail.com>, freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: ZFS for a desktop computer
Message-ID:  <20081102144842.GA59552@hyperion.scode.org>
In-Reply-To: <200811011517.37640.lists@jnielsen.net>
References:  <20081101114717.0ffc2ec8@valhala> <200811011517.37640.lists@jnielsen.net>

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> There are patches available to allow this but frankly I don't see the=20
> appeal. I think it makes much more sense to have / (including /boot) be a=
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> regular UFS2 filesystem on a small partition. If something goes wrong you=
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> can boot from a CD or single-user and not have to worry about getting you=
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> ZFS pools back online before you can even start troubleshooting the syste=
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FWIW let me just put the vote in there that to me, personally, there
is a lot of appeal. For recovery, I don't find minimalistic /:s or
fixit CD:s very useful anyway (in fact I don't think I have ever fixed
a system that way; if there is some trouble that prevents booting, I
tend to end up booting a separate fully installed system from another
drive or similar to have full flexibility).

If you're using ZFS because you want to avoid certain failure
conditions (such as "oh, there was a bad block during reconstruction
and my mirror got blown away even though it was a 4-way mirror"), it
is nice to have that applied to your *entire* system instead of having
a small root partition or boot partition that is somehow
exempted. Especially since these are the ones you really need to boot
the system.

I appreciate that supporting direct booting off of ZFS is not easy to
implement, and this is not any kind of complaint. I just want to
respond to the claim that there is no appeal to having it supported. I
doubt I am alone in thinking it would be great to boot natively off
ZFS, even if not every one under the sun agrees :)

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