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Date:      Fri, 19 Jan 2001 20:39:39 -0800
From:      Kris Kennaway <kris@FreeBSD.org>
To:        "David J. MacKenzie" <djm@web.us.uu.net>
Cc:        markm@FreeBSD.org, jdp@FreeBSD.org, nectar@FreeBSD.org, rwatson@FreeBSD.org, audit@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: login_access()
Message-ID:  <20010119203939.C17925@citusc17.usc.edu>
In-Reply-To: <20010120042353.C4E1912686@jenkins.web.us.uu.net>; from djm@web.us.uu.net on Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 11:23:53PM -0500
References:  <20010120042353.C4E1912686@jenkins.web.us.uu.net>

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[ Moving to -audit, which is more on-topic for discussion of
security-related code patches]

On Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 11:23:53PM -0500, David J. MacKenzie wrote:
> > This sounds like a good way to proceed (well, PAM module first, then
> > removal/deprecation). Are you able to submit code to do the former?
>=20
> It's been done back in 1997, actually.  Linux-PAM comes with a
> pam_access module that is a pamified version of that login_access()
> function.  FreeBSD (-stable) comes with Linux-PAM 0.66, apparently
> from 1998.  Recent versions (0.72) come with several modules
> not included in FreeBSD (-stable), including pam_access.

Oh, cool. That sounds like the way to go, then.

Some historical background you may not have: we're using an old and
cut-down version of PAM because it was audited by John Polstra as part
of a commercial contract (and indeed, we haven't had any security
problems with the code, that I know of - although this could
admittedly just be because it hasn't received enough attention).

On the one hand, we need to finish integrating PAM into the system -
on the other hand any kind of non-trivial changes to authorization and
authentication schemes worry me because of the potential to introduce
security holes. If we can find someone PAM-knowledgeable to work with
you to carefully review any changes (several candidates are CC'ed on
this message), I'd be eager to sponsor you for a commit bit so you can
work on this directly.

Kris

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