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Date:      Sat, 1 May 1999 17:59:19 +0200 (CEST)
From:      Wilko Bulte <wilko@yedi.iaf.nl>
To:        bob@pmr.com
Cc:        bob@pmr.com, cjohnson@neunacht.netgsi.com, shocking@prth.pgs.com, current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Further on tape & CAM problems
Message-ID:  <199905011559.RAA00823@yedi.iaf.nl>
In-Reply-To: <19990501092120.A13451@luke.pmr.com> from Bob Willcox at "May 1, 1999  9:21:20 am"

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[ should we keep this on -current ?? ]

As Bob Willcox wrote ...
> On Fri, Apr 30, 1999 at 12:36:25AM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote:
> > As Bob Willcox wrote ...
> > > On Thu, Apr 29, 1999 at 10:26:36PM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote:
> > > > As Bob Willcox wrote ...
> > > > > On Wed, Apr 28, 1999 at 08:45:36PM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote:

> > > Hmm, why is that?  The newest of the IBM branded Exabyte 8200's that I
> > 
> > That is what I've been told by an Exabyte engineer years back. I can only
> > guess that some OEMs need adaptations to the firmware behaviour that are
> > incompatible with what the rest of the world needs (or has standardised
> > on, e.g. in the ANSI SCSI standard). Again, guessing.
> 
> Well, I can only speak for the IBM OEM'd drives that I have (as a
> retired IBMer, I've been picking them up at their employee surplus
> store here in Austin, TX).  For these drives the generic firmware works
> just fine.  I can see why Exabyte wouldn't openly recommend the change
> though.

The hardware is probably the same, so an EPROM swap brings them to
the generic model.

> recall that we did have some customizations in the firmware for the
> RS/6K AIX systems.  In addition to changing the Inquiry command Vendor
> ID data, I believe there were some functional changes (I don't recall
> the details).  I have always suspected that the functional changes are
> likely what made the IBM OEM'd drives fail on FreeBSD!  The upgraded
> firmware IBM drives work on both (as "Other SCSI Tape Drive").

That is quite possible. And it matches the recommendation of the
Exabyte engineer.

> > Mine works OK with that f/w. Not that I use the 8200 often anymore, 
> > I like my DLT4000 much better than the 8200. ;-)
> 
> I much prefer my Exabyte Mammouth drives as well  :-)
> 
> (But I do seem to get some fun out of playing with the 8200's I get for
> $10 apiece from the surplus store :-)

Absolutely right. And I got my DLT4000 for US$ 25 so you can guess where
I got it from 8-)

Groeten / Cheers,

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