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Date:      Thu, 2 May 2002 09:15:39 +0200 (METDST)
From:      hm@hcs.de (Hellmuth Michaelis)
To:        "M. Warner Losh" <imp@village.org>
Cc:        freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Save a few hunderd kilobytes or a few hundred perl users?
Message-ID:  <20020502071539.36A695D0@hcswork.hcs.de>
In-Reply-To: <20020501.181640.79019608.imp@village.org> "from M. Warner Losh at May 1, 2002 06:16:40 pm"

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From the keyboard of M. Warner Losh:
> My take on this.  We should remove perl from the base, and
> automatically install the port for most users in sysinstall, just like
> we do with XFree86.

OK, fine and if then an option "FETCH_MAKE_AND_INSTALL_PERL_FROM_PORTS"
is added to make.conf and made working so that make buildworld/installworld
updates go transparenly without loosing perl (or any other component of the
current base system, which will for shure be removed taking the perl
removal as a precedent case) then i'm calmed down.

In other words: this move from the base to the ports has to go unnoticed
to the user for _all_ methods of installing and updating - IMHO otherwise
FreeBSD will get real problems since perl (and what is currently in the 
base system - including gcc/gdb/etc and even sendmail :-) ) is considered
an integral part of a base contemparary operating system by the user base
(including sysadmins who are "only" _using_ FreeBSD).

hellmuth
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