Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2017 11:40:09 -0800 From: Ultima <ultima1252@gmail.com> To: FreeBSD <freebsd-ports@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Vote: making wayland=on default Message-ID: <CANJ8om4p-w9o=sN0KaFeNkQUxTf2HCBLzWO0VnMkw-5KmfrWsg@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <CAECmPwu6t-q-xF4sfon4oB%2BpMzcgYR=UoXDafQTfDfK8q4b8Tg@mail.gmail.com> References: <CAECmPwtgtxJ-Nv6_LWoZC14UQ7TRZR%2B6Bg=1TK5=FuKz78hFNQ@mail.gmail.com> <3267de19-6e00-a72a-e2a7-abb322ccf7ac@rawbw.com> <CAECmPwu6t-q-xF4sfon4oB%2BpMzcgYR=UoXDafQTfDfK8q4b8Tg@mail.gmail.com>
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I support adding wayland support on by default as well. It still is WIP in several areas one I have not seen mentioned yet includes nvidia graphics cards. Needing to rebuild several ports just to test does seem a bit too much though. Best regards, Richard Gallamore On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 11:14 AM, Johannes Lundberg <johalun0@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Yuri > > To be clear, we're not transitioning to anything, we're simply adding > more options. Compare it to adding a new window manager for X, it > doesn't mean you have to stop using the existing ones... > > > On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 5:39 PM, Yuri <yuri@rawbw.com> wrote: > > On 12/20/17 01:20, Johannes Lundberg wrote: > >> > >> For any Desktop user (as well as embedded devices > >> like IVI-systems and whatnot), Wayland is the future. There's no > >> escaping that. > > > > > > Over the history of its development, Wayland could never clearly answer > the > > question "What are the benefits of Wayland for the end user?". > > Additionally, they always advocated the removal of features like > networked > > connections, window manager features. > > > > It appears that this is the case of fixing of something (xorg) that > > wasn't/isn't broken in the first place. And if it is considered broken, > then > > how, in which way? > > > > But you are right, it is a reality that Wayand devs had enough > horsepower to > > eventually, after many years, make it and now impose it on everybody, and > > force it to be a future reality. > > > > There are a lot of things that need to be verified that they work: > x11vnc, > > the ability to connect to a display remotely, every window manager should > > work with it, ex. xfce4, dwm. > > > > People should be asking the question "What's the benefit of the > transition > > to X?". The answer should include the functional benefits to users, not > just > > "We need to switch to something called X." What new features or > improvements > > will users actually see? > > > > > > Just my 2c. > > Yuri > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >
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