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Date:      Wed, 3 Apr 2002 18:21:23 -0600
From:      Mike Meyer <mwm-dated-1018311683.931895@mired.org>
To:        "Randall Hamilton" <nitedog@silly.pikachu.org>
Cc:        "Anthony Atkielski" <anthony@atkielski.com>, <chat@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: Anti-Unix Site Runs Unix
Message-ID:  <15531.40067.230080.806545@guru.mired.org>
In-Reply-To: <007601c1db6c$9daac550$0301a8c0@NITEDOG>
References:  <20020402113404.A52321@lpt.ens.fr> <3CA9854E.A4D86CC4@mindspring.com> <20020402123254.H49279@lpt.ens.fr> <009301c1da83$9fa73170$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <15530.6987.977637.574551@guru.mired.org> <012601c1dadb$104d5100$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <15531.2846.277278.29276@guru.mired.org> <005e01c1db44$e10d2a40$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <15531.27851.19169.720598@guru.mired.org> <001301c1db55$7c883950$0301a8c0@NITEDOG> <009201c1db5e$41b1baa0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <15531.33743.830853.456500@guru.mired.org> <000f01c1db68$0bbad580$0301a8c0@NITEDOG> <15531.37605.851236.651200@guru.mired.org> <004901c1db69$9a1cc3f0$0301a8c0@NITEDOG> <15531.38785.141595.336871@guru.mired.org> <007601c1db6c$9daac550$0301a8c0@NITEDOG>

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In <007601c1db6c$9daac550$0301a8c0@NITEDOG>, Randall Hamilton <nitedog@silly.pikachu.org> typed:
> > In <004901c1db69$9a1cc3f0$0301a8c0@NITEDOG>, Randall Hamilton
> <nitedog@silly.pikachu.org> typed:
> > No, I'm not forgetting it, but as the man said, "there are advantages
> > that outweigh that." All the hardware I need to work works. Sure, I
> > may have to buy from a more limited set than you do, but the small set
> > I use is includes everything I need, which is all that matters.
> again...when i see an OS that can support my hardware..play my games..do my
> work and other multimedia needs..I will use that as a desktop.
> and yes..desktops are generally end user machines...or as you put it 'home
> machines'

No, "end user" and "home machines" are two radically different types
of machines. I spent most of my adult life supporting end user
machines, but playing games was never part of the story. For that
matter, audio and video weren't, either.

> > Yes, it does. What you're calling a desktop I'd call a home
> > machine. What you're calling workstation I'd call a server with a GUI
> > interface. You've dropped the entire class of machines between those
> > two ends, which includes all the machines that businesses put on their
> > employees desktops so they can get work done. They aren't geared to a
> > specific task, but are available for all the tasks that employee does
> > does. They generally don't need audio or video, and games clearly have
> > no place on them.
> thats...basiclly what i just said. if i am an accountant, all i need is a
> workstation with the billing software. if i am a dataentry person, all i
> need is a workstation with the database-drivin data entry program. they need
> nothing else..just..

I think you don't really grasp what a business machine does. The only
accountant who just needs "billing software" probably doens't even
need that. Those who actually use computers probably expect to be able
to do word processing above and beyond what a spreadsheet has, and
will need all the ancillary software that goes with that - spelling
and grammer checking, thesaurus, and so on. They may well do email
to/from clients about various issues. In most of the places I've
worked, email was either the #1 or #2 most important
application. There's a good chance that one or more of the journals in
their field is now online, and the IRS publishes documents via the
web, so they need a web browser and the application to print those
forms. Oh yes, they'll want a printer. If they're dealing with typeset
documents, they may want a scanner and some OCR software.

That's to be contrasted with what I thought you meant by workstation,
which would be something like one part of an order entry system. If
that's not what you meant, but you meant a general-purpose computer
used by someone dong work, then the difference is that you play games
on a desktop, but not on a workstation. Which makes my PS2 a better
desktop machine than Windows, but not as good a workstation :-).

	<mike
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