Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 01:21:32 -0800 From: Kent Stewart <kstewart@owt.com> To: Martin Karlsson <martin.karlsson@visit.se> Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: this spam Message-ID: <3C02099C.3080102@owt.com> References: <20011125224515.WGVK6448.femail43.sdc1.sfba.home.com@tspivey8> <008901c17641$8d338440$2a7627cb@bytecraft.au.com> <20011126100247.A938@foo31-249.visit.se>
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Martin Karlsson wrote: > A few short (OT) questions: Why do spammers spam? I mean, people do not > buy "products" from the guy who sent them spam, do they? (please tell me > they don't...) So, how do spammers make enough money to be able to keep > on spamming? > Your thoughts on this would be much appreciated. > Considering how easy it is to track them down, I don't understand either. If everyone that received a spam, looked at the headers and responded to each message, the people that do this would be inundated in messages to abuse@... It would be a reverse DoS. The http oriented http://www.arin.net/whois/ makes it even easier because they will even point you to apnic or ripe depending on where the message originated. I have one spammer that is using phoenix.dnscamp.com. Dnscamp.com is a Australian domain; however, if you use a traceroute IP, I found that phoenix.dnscamp.com was attached to alter.net in the USA. My attitude is that it is a theft of service and approach it like some one stole something from me. They really did because I have to invest time to track them down and that time is lost forever. If you let the harmless looking ones get away with it, you lose down the road. I figure you have to track them all down. They really should consider me a anti-spam activist. If my replies bounce, I get even more interested in tracking them down. The ultimate story is still http://belps.freewebsites.com/index2.htm, which is the site "Behind Enemy Lines -...". Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA It is hard to believe you are soaring with Eagles when you accept SPAM like a mouse. mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
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