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Date:      Mon, 18 Feb 2002 11:37:54 +0100
From:      "Anthony Atkielski" <anthony@freebie.atkielski.com>
To:        "Alfred Perlstein" <bright@mu.org>
Cc:        "FreeBSD Questions" <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: in-kernel HTTP Server for FreeBSD?
Message-ID:  <00e901c1b868$5469e460$0a00000a@atkielski.com>
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Alfred writes:

> Afaik mainframes are for people that have
> several hundred thousand or a couple of
> million in the bank to toss at a problem.

You get what you pay for.  And if you want to play with the big boys, you
have to be willing to spend the big money.  Huge multinationals don't run
their worldwide OLTP networks or batch operations on PCs.

> While it would be nice to have that kind
> of money to throw around most of us simply
> don't and even if we did, for the most part
> they would be a tremendous waste of capital
> to throw at a startup-like venture.

Then perhaps these ill-funded ventures should be more conservative in the
performance goals they set.  Running at redline all the time is not a good
idea.

> It's hard to sell someone on the idea that they
> need to purchase a mainframe in order to do
> scaleable load balancing or track web vistors
> for hundreds of millions of visitors per day
> when the current peak is looking like only
> several thousand.

If the current peak is several thousand, then an ordinary FreeBSD system
with Apache will do.

> Going out on a limb I'd be hard pressed to
> find a mainframe that has an entry level cost
> of five to ten thousand dollars.

I'd be hard pressed to find a car that has an entry-level cost of five to
ten thousand dollars, but even the smallest businesses seem to manage to buy
cars.

> Even at that price it's still cuts into per-unit
> sales by far too much.

Are these businesses running out of someone's garage, or what?

> I think the lesson to be learned here is that
> if you are unaware of the issues being tackled
> and apparently unwilling to ask or take a hint when
> refuted about them you should butt-out.

Have you applied this to your comments above about mainframes?

If you don't like to have people disagree with you, don't express your
opinions in public venues.


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