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Date:      Thu, 6 Oct 2005 19:45:50 -0400
From:      Dan Ponte <dcp1990@neptune.atopia.net>
To:        freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: new FreeBSD-webpage
Message-ID:  <20051006234550.GA40260@neptune.atopia.net>
In-Reply-To: <20051006224214.GD8320@freebsdmall.com>
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On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 03:42:14PM -0700, Murray Stokely <murray@freebsd.or=
g> was witnessed plotting the following conspiracy:
> On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 06:15:41PM -0400, Dan Ponte wrote:
> > One idea is to revert to the old design, which suited people's needs
> > just fine. However, I doubt that will happen.
>=20
> Uhm, it didn't suit people's needs just fine.  It was total crap with
> dozens of disorganized links all over the front page and second level
> pages topping 100k as they had just grown larger and larger over time
> and noone had stepped back to look at how bad it all was for someone
> coming to the site for the first time to find any useful information.
> I've had so many people ask 'where did all that new content come from
> about advocacy and such?'.  The answer is it was there before just
> hidden in the complexity.
>=20
> This is not the appropriate forum for armchair web design discussions.
> If you are interested in tweaking the new design then join the -www@
> list.  Better yet, you could have participated in the redesign
> discussions there over the past 6 months.  Patches will be addressed
> first.  Second will be specific suggestions about regressions in
> useability (many have been fixed within hours of being brought up on
> the www@ list).  I doubt you'll find anyone interested in acting on
> any 'I liked it better before' mails.
>=20
> Thanks for Kris and others on this list trying to keep things specific
> and constructive.  Let's let this thread die on stable@ and move it to
> www@ where it belongs.
>=20
>     - Murray
Admittedly, having some of the more obscure pages come into plain view
is a nice thing. However, I am speaking mostly of the increase in number
of clicks it takes to get to frequently-visited pages. And the new
"look" is another thing I have a few gripes with. I guess the good thing
to do would be to take this up on www, per your suggestion. Ultimately,
the goal is to make things better; I just didn't feel that the current
ways of doing things are the best means to that end.
-Dan
--=20
Dan Ponte
http://www.theamigan.net/
Economists state their GNP growth projections to the nearest tenth of a
percentage point to prove they have a sense of humor.
		-- Edgar R. Fiedler

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