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Date:      Fri, 16 Mar 2001 01:16:49 -0600
From:      Mike Meyer <mwm@mired.org>
To:        Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org>
Cc:        Mike Meyer <mwm@mired.org>, chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Stallman stalls again
Message-ID:  <15025.48609.728194.582344@guru.mired.org>
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Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org> types:
> At 11:58 PM 3/15/2001, Mike Meyer wrote:
> >Yes, it's a fact that you spell it beliefs. As for what you believe
> >about Stallman, repeating it as often as you want won't prove it, and
> >won't change anyones mind. I offered you a chance to prove it, and the
> >best you could do was come up with a couple of quotes that are as bad
> >as Allchin's quotes, but don't prove anything. 
> Of course, you will accept nothing -- not even eyewitness
> accounts or direct quotes -- as proof. And then walk away saying, 
> "See, you didn't prove anything!"

I already pointed out the problem with the quotes. Your response to my
request for the context was "go find it yourself." Come on - show me a
single direct quote where he says "go steal programs". Or even two
sentences, one that follows the other, where he says "publishers call
sharing piracy. Share as much as you can". Better yet, provide a URL
for that.

I'm willing to read what you have to say and evaluate it, but I'm not
going to take change my opinion just because you say so - I except you
to actually prove your point, not merely bore me by constant
repetition of it.

> Which, of course, shows nothing but that it is pointless to converse
> with you.

You should be flattered that I chose to imitate your rhetorical
technics. I should be happy that they have the same effect on you that
they do on other people.

> >You know, I now know why you act the way you do. It's fun.  It's also
> >amusing to see that you get to the same point that people do when
> >dealing with you, and just give it up as a waste of time.
> Hopefully, thoese other people learned something. I don't hold out
> much hope that you have, though. You appear to be such a zealot
> that it truly is a waste of time.

I'm sure they learned something. Most of them learned that responding
to what you write is a waste of time, because you aren't going to pay
attention.

	<mike
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