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Date:      Tue, 6 Sep 2011 23:30:04 -0700
From:      Stanislav Sedov <stas@FreeBSD.org>
To:        "Julian H. Stacey" <jhs@berklix.com>
Cc:        ports@freebsd.org, Mark Linimon <linimon@lonesome.com>, portmgr@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: sysutils/cfs
Message-ID:  <20110906233004.f0a93ac6.stas@FreeBSD.org>
In-Reply-To: <201109051005.p85A5ZvN005263@fire.js.berklix.net>
References:  <20110904231821.GC22986@lonesome.com> <201109051005.p85A5ZvN005263@fire.js.berklix.net>

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On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 12:05:35 +0200
"Julian H. Stacey" <jhs@berklix.com> mentioned:

> Mark Linimon wrote:
> > On Sun, Sep 04, 2011 at 10:32:30PM +0200, Julian H. Stacey wrote:
> > > It is not responsible to threaten to remove ports without warning
> > > between releases for non urgent reasons.
> >=20
> > portmgr has no such policy.
> >=20
> > Ports get deleted all the time due to various issues.  I prefer to see
> > a 1- or 2-month warning via EXPIRATION_DATE, but that's my personal
> > preference, not a written policy.
> >=20
> > mcl
>=20
> Drive by ports shootings are becoming too frequent, & will get
> FreeBSD a bad name as immature & poorly managed
> A solution: Ensure a policy of expiry dates expire a release after
> a warning is given in a previous releases (except in emergency).
>=20

I second this opinion.
We might have not needed the policy a while ago when such deprecations
were rare.  Given that we gained several people working actively
on this I'd like to see some policy regarding deprecation as well.
I saw several occasions when ports were deprecated for no apparent
reason, so I can understand Julian and other people dissatisfaction
with this.

What about requiring that the ports deprecated should be either broken
or have known published vulnerabilties for a long period of
time (say 6 months) for the start?  Personally, I'd also love to see
people deprecating ports provide a clear reasoning for deprecation in
the commit message (not just "deprecated some old ports" etc), so one
won't need to guess if he would like to fix/resurrect the port in the
feature?

Thanks!

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Stanislav Sedov
ST4096-RIPE

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