Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 14:19:35 -0800 From: KAYVEN RIESE <kayve@sfsu.edu> To: Igor Mozolevsky <igor@hybrid-lab.co.uk> Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Russian's laws Message-ID: <Pine.SOC.4.64.0911021410190.8706@libra.sfsu.edu> In-Reply-To: <a2b6592c0911021359s7cb2ba85v1f25cbe853342fc7@mail.gmail.com> References: <20091031061956.GA4561@vagner.bsd.loc> <200911020721.nA27L4H6082513@lurza.secnetix.de> <a2b6592c0911020235w6a6b35bds9b57309e93ae0935@mail.gmail.com> <Pine.SOC.4.64.0911021325490.8706@libra.sfsu.edu> <a2b6592c0911021359s7cb2ba85v1f25cbe853342fc7@mail.gmail.com>
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---559023410-959030623-1257200375=:8706 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"; format=flowed On Mon, 2 Nov 2009, Igor Mozolevsky wrote: > 2009/11/2 KAYVEN RIESE <kayve@sfsu.edu>: > >> It looks to me it is talking about "operators" i.e. government buearocra= ts >> on state systems talking about "personal data" which just means that the >> government has records on you. > > No, an "operator" is essentially anyone who processes data - Art. 3 > =C2=A72, but I still don't see where the leap to "certified OS" is made..= =2E That is what I was looking at.. and from the use of "operator" in the rest= =20 of the text, it seems it is mostly about the rights of a person regarding= =20 a second party processing their data in some state data system. The first= =20 definition of operator under Article three is "a State authority,=20 municipal authority, .." it seems to imply that it is concerned about=20 what happens to folks' personal data when it gets into the state (or=20 other, granted) system.. I agree.. I didn't quite read it down to the letter.. it is like 15 pages,= =20 but I tried to read most of it. A key definition for this particular worry is Article 3 9).. personal data information system - an information system, consisting of=20 all the personal data kept in a database, and also the information=20 technologies and hardware, enabling processing of such personal data using= =20 automated facilities or without the use of such facilities. In Article 13 # 2 2. Federal Laws may establish special features of keeping records of=20 personal data in State or municipal personal data information systems,=20 including the use of various means of indicating that personal data=20 included in the corresponding State or municipal data information system=20 belong to a particular subject of personal data. Now that sounds to me talking about some beaurocrats dealing with folks=20 coming into a government office.. and they are talking about what the=20 government is doing with their data. Now the definition of operator does extend beyond "state and municipal,"=20 this is true.. umm.. but the spirit of all this.. Yeah.. Not seeing anybody needing to worry about their FBSD. This=20 legislation looks to be on the citizen's side, in my estimation.. not=20 trying to regulate anything but folks who are authorized to snoop into=20 other folks' data.. er.. they talk about privacy somewhere.. but I am not= =20 going to try to cite any more Articles just now. > > > Cheers, > > -- > Igor > *----------------------------------------------------------* Kayven Riese, BSCS, MS (Physiology and Biophysics) (415) 902 5513 cellular http://kayve.net Webmaster http://ChessYoga.org *----------------------------------------------------------* ---559023410-959030623-1257200375=:8706--
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